[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

Thu Jul 12 14:30:14 BST 2012

Schrödinger's files.

> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:27:55 +0100
> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> 
> You don't "lose" them, they are just invisible - you could get them back.
> 
> If you installed over the top you'd get horrific errors long before
> much else (because the database and USER-FILES would be out of sync).
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> > Having just tested the For XAMPP People option and removed the error about
> > demo.txt I created a test project and then re-ran setup with the For XAMPP
> > People option again. No errors, no prompts but database is obviously
> > overwritten and previous project disappears. I guess this has always been
> > the case with the For XAMPP People option but with the objective of making
> > initial install simple for people I think there really ought to be at least
> > a warning/prompt that re-running setup will lose all existing projects
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 12:06
> >
> >
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> >> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
> >> anything which might already be there.
> >
> > I’d delete htdocs xerte toolkits and mysql/data/toolkits (or whatever the
> > folder’s called) then drop the new files into htdocs and then go to setup
> > for a fresh install.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m not sure how I’d try and keep existing content, or what I’d assume would
> > happen if I went over the top. I’d probably assume nothing would be deleted
> > without my say-so.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 12:02
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over
> > the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from
> > MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.
> >
> >
> >
> > Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
> > anything which might already be there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, the XAMPP version relies on
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) The database server being called localhost
> >
> > 2) The folder being xertetoolkits
> >
> > 3) The passwords being the default
> >
> >
> >
> > So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd
> > die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop
> > commands.
> >
> >
> >
> > But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls
> > and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to
> > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/ - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So
> > the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.
> >
> >
> >
> > The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install -
> > just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it
> > installed.
> >
> > It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql
> > - which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but
> > happy to be told otherwise.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney
> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try and
> > migrate the content from one to another?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:22
> >
> >
> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?
> >
> > Meeting now will test again later.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > The quick one.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it’s there to give a real easy way of setting up for the non-techs,
> > I think that’s important.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when
> > testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?
> >
> >
> >
> > Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always
> > thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok
> > I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new
> > directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install -
> > does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the
> > database already exists?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff
> > after that.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > OK. So how do we stop the error?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then
> > need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required.
> > So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has
> > completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:47
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to
> > copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I
> > don't know if demo is spurious anymore?
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney
> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > What do I need to do?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:39
> >
> >
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> >
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been
> > removed from /setup?
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney
> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Doing an xampp install I get this error, what’s the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> > <image001.png>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:35
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release
> >
> >
> >
> > A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday:
> > everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have
> > one final check that everything we think works still does.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can see
> > it running on a server please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?
> >
> >
> >
> > Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and pieces
> > still work please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
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