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Schrödinger's files.<div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:27:55 +0100<br>> From: patrick.lockley@googlemail.com<br>> To: xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> <br>> You don't "lose" them, they are just invisible - you could get them back.<br>> <br>> If you installed over the top you'd get horrific errors long before<br>> much else (because the database and USER-FILES would be out of sync).<br>> <br>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:<br>> > Having just tested the For XAMPP People option and removed the error about<br>> > demo.txt I created a test project and then re-ran setup with the For XAMPP<br>> > People option again. No errors, no prompts but database is obviously<br>> > overwritten and previous project disappears. I guess this has always been<br>> > the case with the For XAMPP People option but with the objective of making<br>> > initial install simple for people I think there really ought to be at least<br>> > a warning/prompt that re-running setup will lose all existing projects<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 12:06<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose<br>> >> anything which might already be there.<br>> ><br>> > I’d delete htdocs xerte toolkits and mysql/data/toolkits (or whatever the<br>> > folder’s called) then drop the new files into htdocs and then go to setup<br>> > for a fresh install.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I’m not sure how I’d try and keep existing content, or what I’d assume would<br>> > happen if I went over the top. I’d probably assume nothing would be deleted<br>> > without my say-so.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 12:02<br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over<br>> > the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from<br>> > MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose<br>> > anything which might already be there.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > David.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Erm<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Well, the XAMPP version relies on<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > 1) The database server being called localhost<br>> ><br>> > 2) The folder being xertetoolkits<br>> ><br>> > 3) The passwords being the default<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd<br>> > die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop<br>> > commands.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls<br>> > and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to<br>> > http://localhost/xertetoolkits/ - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So<br>> > the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install -<br>> > just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it<br>> > installed.<br>> ><br>> > It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql<br>> > - which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but<br>> > happy to be told otherwise.<br>> ><br>> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney<br>> > <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > I don’t know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try and<br>> > migrate the content from one to another?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:22<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?<br>> ><br>> > Meeting now will test again later.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13<br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > The quick one.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I think it’s there to give a real easy way of setting up for the non-techs,<br>> > I think that’s important.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Thanks.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13<br>> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when<br>> > testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always<br>> > thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok<br>> > I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new<br>> > directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install -<br>> > does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the<br>> > database already exists?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff<br>> > after that.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53<br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > OK. So how do we stop the error?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53<br>> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then<br>> > need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required.<br>> > So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has<br>> > completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:47<br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to<br>> > copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I<br>> > don't know if demo is spurious anymore?<br>> ><br>> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney<br>> > <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > What do I need to do?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:39<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> ><br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been<br>> > removed from /setup?<br>> ><br>> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney<br>> > <Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Doing an xampp install I get this error, what’s the problem?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > <image001.png><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>> > Sent: 12 July 2012 09:35<br>> > To: For Xerte technical developers<br>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday:<br>> > everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have<br>> > one final check that everything we think works still does.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can see<br>> > it running on a server please?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and pieces<br>> > still work please?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Thanks,<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and<br>> > may contain confidential information. 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