[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

Thu Jul 12 14:27:55 BST 2012

You don't "lose" them, they are just invisible - you could get them back.

If you installed over the top you'd get horrific errors long before
much else (because the database and USER-FILES would be out of sync).

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> Having just tested the For XAMPP People option and removed the error about
> demo.txt I created a test project and then re-ran setup with the For XAMPP
> People option again. No errors, no prompts but database is obviously
> overwritten and previous project disappears. I guess this has always been
> the case with the For XAMPP People option but with the objective of making
> initial install simple for people I think there really ought to be at least
> a warning/prompt that re-running setup will lose all existing projects
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 12 July 2012 12:06
>
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
>> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
>> anything which might already be there.
>
> I’d delete htdocs xerte toolkits and mysql/data/toolkits (or whatever the
> folder’s called) then drop the new files into htdocs and then go to setup
> for a fresh install.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure how I’d try and keep existing content, or what I’d assume would
> happen if I went over the top. I’d probably assume nothing would be deleted
> without my say-so.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
> Sent: 12 July 2012 12:02
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over
> the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from
> MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.
>
>
>
> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
> anything which might already be there.
>
>
>
>
>
> David.
>
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:
>
>
>
> Erm
>
>
>
> Well, the XAMPP version relies on
>
>
>
> 1) The database server being called localhost
>
> 2) The folder being xertetoolkits
>
> 3) The passwords being the default
>
>
>
> So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd
> die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop
> commands.
>
>
>
> But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls
> and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to
> http://localhost/xertetoolkits/ - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So
> the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.
>
>
>
> The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install -
> just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it
> installed.
>
> It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql
> - which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but
> happy to be told otherwise.
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I don’t know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try and
> migrate the content from one to another?
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:22
>
>
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?
>
> Meeting now will test again later.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> The quick one.
>
>
>
> I think it’s there to give a real easy way of setting up for the non-techs,
> I think that’s important.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when
> testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?
>
>
>
> Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always
> thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok
> I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new
> directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install -
> does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the
> database already exists?
>
>
>
> I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff
> after that.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> OK. So how do we stop the error?
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then
> need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required.
> So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has
> completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:47
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to
> copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I
> don't know if demo is spurious anymore?
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> What do I need to do?
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:39
>
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been
> removed from /setup?
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Doing an xampp install I get this error, what’s the problem?
>
>
>
> <image001.png>
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:35
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release
>
>
>
> A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday:
> everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have
> one final check that everything we think works still does.
>
>
>
> Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can see
> it running on a server please?
>
>
>
> Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?
>
>
>
> Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and pieces
> still work please?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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