[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

Thu Jul 12 14:26:25 BST 2012

Having just tested the For XAMPP People option and removed the error about
demo.txt I created a test project and then re-ran setup with the For XAMPP
People option again. No errors, no prompts but database is obviously
overwritten and previous project disappears. I guess this has always been
the case with the For XAMPP People option but with the objective of making
initial install simple for people I think there really ought to be at least
a warning/prompt that re-running setup will lose all existing projects

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 12 July 2012 12:06
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
anything which might already be there.

I'd delete htdocs xerte toolkits and mysql/data/toolkits (or whatever the
folder's called) then drop the new files into htdocs and then go to setup
for a fresh install.

I'm not sure how I'd try and keep existing content, or what I'd assume would
happen if I went over the top. I'd probably assume nothing would be deleted
without my say-so.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 12 July 2012 12:02
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over
the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from
MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.

Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
anything which might already be there.

David.

On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:

Erm

Well, the XAMPP version relies on 

1) The database server being called localhost

2) The folder being xertetoolkits

3) The passwords being the default

So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd
die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop
commands.

But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls
and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to
http://localhost/xertetoolkits/ - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So
the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.

The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install -
just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it
installed.

It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql
- which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but
happy to be told otherwise.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

I don't know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try and
migrate the content from one to another?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 12 July 2012 11:22

To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?

Meeting now will test again later.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

The quick one.

I think it's there to give a real easy way of setting up for the non-techs,
I think that's important.

Thanks.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when
testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?

Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always
thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok
I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new
directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install -
does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the
database already exists?

I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff
after that.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

OK. So how do we stop the error?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then
need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required.
So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has
completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 July 2012 09:47
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to
copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I
don't know if demo is spurious anymore?

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

What do I need to do?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 July 2012 09:39

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been
removed from /setup?

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Doing an xampp install I get this error, what's the problem?

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 12 July 2012 09:35
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release

A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday:
everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have
one final check that everything we think works still does. 

Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can see
it running on a server please?

Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?

Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and pieces
still work please?

Thanks,

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