[Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

Thu Feb 9 09:04:22 GMT 2012

The options for saving data are:

- cache it for the current session (write to the xml or somewhere else convenient);
- Save between sessions for same user on same machine - use SharedObject;
- Save between sessions for a roaming user logging in from anywhere. Needs user login and authentication (how would the sandpit do this - no LMS, no LDAP, no list of end-users), LMS or custom functionality to save data.

1st is easy.
2nd more difficult, but probably simple enough - but might not be worth the effort as many users roam - use LOs at home, in library, etc).
3rd option is an LMS thing or a custom data tracking solution. You have to have users with usernames and passwords (and support issues when they can't log in). Tom was looking into SCORMing the interactions, which seems a potential solution. I am a little cautious about the amount of support this would create: what I definitely don't want to do is to start creating loads of support issues when you start managing usernames, passwords, etc. Think about the sandpit scenario - how would it work best for that?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 08 February 2012 15:15
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

We have 2 sort-of-separate issues going here:

- Having pages retain input during session
- Having the ability to Save/Print input

The mechanics are thus:

To instantiate a page, the engine reads a block of XML and uses those instructions to create the page components the user sees.
When you "turn the page", those components are deleted, and the next page worth of components are created.
To retain page information **just during a session**, we would need to write the information we want to retain into the underlying XML block for that page.
All of that information disappears when the LO is restarted/reloaded

Saving content beyond the session requires other mechanisms:

- LO is housed within a compliant LMS/VLE. Data can be sent/retrieved via SCORM calls.
- LO can call .asp/php/whatever middleware to write/retrieve data from server text file or database.

So first we need a consensus on what is most desired.
Session persistent or long-term persistent?

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:46:09 -0800
From: briananthonyfinch at yahoo.com
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT
This is essentially the same query I raised a couple of weeks ago about being able to save your work and go back to it. Someone on another site suggested that it could be done through Moodle but since nobody has proposed that here does that mean it won't work? I have not yet pursued the idea and don't know much about Moodle.

I don't know how hard the programing is but it would be immensely powerful for a learner to be able to check a model answer against their own and to look back at what they have done as they progress.

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From: Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

There's a 'model answer' in the new tempales..?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 February 2012 12:22
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

If enough people request it Julian might just be persuaded to include my two compare answer page types! ;-)

http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 February 2012 11:02
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

We can't create / save a file in Word - the user can cut and paste at the minute. Potentially could do a nicer job of building up the text to cut / paste, or send it to server for some processing / turn it into a doc of some sort on the server.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 08 February 2012 10:56
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Subject: [Xerte] Query about model answer pagetype in XOT

Hi

With the Model Answer pagetype (type in some text in a box) would it be possible to have a function which allows the user to save the text created to a word file and also allows the editor of the page to choose whether the page should be cleared or not when  the user moves forward or back through the xerte course pages?

Thanks in advance,

Andy

Centre for Applied Linguistics
Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building)

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