[Syrphidae] Re: What is this??

Kumar Ghorpade rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in
Mon Jul 8 08:56:55 BST 2013


Dear Francis :
   Greetings my old friend, whom I fondly remember as my “Sheriff of Nottingham” !  Last night I had sent that mail from memory, after watching Andy Murray become men’s Wimbledon singles champion 77 years after the only other great British champion Fred Perry.
    But  early this morning checked collections and library in my study and wish to communicate the following :
1.         I found 7 specimens in my collection, 4 from Java, and 1 each from Thailand (Siam), Burma and near Shillong (in old ‘Assam,’ now Meghalaya state) in NE. India. This is still unpublished data, all please note !
2.       Thompson & Vockeroth (1989) do NOT list it in their catalogue of Australasian and Oceanian Regions.  So Lombok being just  on the eastern side of the classic Wallace’s Line, your photo documents this beautiful species for the first time from what I term the Papuan subregion of the Oriental region, NOT Australian.  More details of the exact locality, date, and collector would be appreciated for the “Conspectus” of Oriental—Papuan Syrphidae that I am constructing along with Chris and his other postdoc student Ximo Mengual.
3.       I wonder if anyone realizes that this coming November 7th  (4 months from today) will be the centenary death anniversary of my favourite collector-naturalist ‘hero,’ Alfred Russel Wallace ?  I also believe his geographical species  concept to be fundamental to species recognition, and that the current biological/phylogenetic concepts only muddle the issue in unending ‘pregnant’ debate. 
4.       Most importantly, your photo species should be called Phytomia chrysopyga Wiedemann since this is the type-species of the genus.  Dolichomerus Macquart (crassa Fabricius is type-species) is a synonym (‘subgenus’ ?) but could be separated as Curran (1927, Rev. Zool. Afr., 15: 362) had felt but later (1927, Bull. AMNH 62: 76, and 1939, Am. Mus. Novit., 1026: 8) merged it under Phytomia (earlier Megaspis Macquart as I knew it when I began my Syrphidae studies in 1973).
 
Cheers,


Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:  P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.



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From: Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this??



It's Lombok in Indonesia
Thanks !
F
 
Dr Francis Gilbert
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From:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
Sent: 02 July 2013 22:14
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this??
 
Francis:
 
It would be nice to know where the picture was taken.
 
This is clearly genus Phytomia. And if in the Oriental region, then probably chrysopygus.
 
But without knowing the locality I would not make a species identification.
 
All: Attached (and not sure whether the server will accept it) is my most recent paper. And if you are interested in old fashioned paper reprints, let me know separately, as I still have many on hand.
 
Sincerely,
 
Chris
 
from home
 
From:Francis Gilbert 
Sent:Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:06 PM
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Subject:[Syrphidae] What is this??
 
best wishes
 
Francis
 
 
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