[Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Mon Sep 5 16:19:00 BST 2011 

I'm aware of that: we had someone here trying to include music videos in their LOs and were most affronted that they weren't allowed to.

The problem is when you get no error: you get the preview image in the play, hit play, and then the little progress wheel spins and spins and spins.... And nothing plays.

I noticed it here last week demoing the software. Today I checked and it does in fact load, but after an unacceptable amount of time.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 05 September 2011 16:13
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

Julian
Do you mean with that video below or the xerte clip in 560? The latter works fine for me but the clip below doesn't. However I don't think this is a xerte problem and it crops up more and more now...

If you paste that embed code into a html page and then view the html page you get the following:

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So I think it's a restriction by the author not a bug with xerte but unfortunately there's no indication when grabbing the embed code that this is the case.
HTH
Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 05 September 2011 15:45
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

I'm seeing the same thing on play_560.

I wonder if anyone can help me try and debug this as I'm going to be away from my desk for the rest of this week. The id is correct, as we get the first frame image OK...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 05 September 2011 14:38
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

Our Norwegian friends have the same issue...

They try to add

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gC3f7oT-qI&feature=related  (new embed code, old embed code, doesn't make a difference).

The first frame is shown, end then.... nothing

Tom

Op 23-8-2011 18:03, Julian Tenney schreef:
Update the youtube models, and see what happens,

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Joanne Shirley
Sent: 23 August 2011 16:55
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

The new embed code does not work   I will try updating the rlm file tomorrow   - we are using version 1.0.2 not 1.6   - although we have 1.6 installed but not working....

Kind Regards

Jo

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 23 August 2011 13:07
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

NO, I don't know. It plays some videos fine, so it's not Xerte playing up, or our embedding of the player. Must be something on youtube's side of things, maybe I'm missing some parameters r something, I'll check the API again.

You could use the new Embed Content / New Window pages to launch the youtube content directly?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 23 August 2011 12:19
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

I'm afraid I don't know. The player is trying to play the right video because I see the preview image of your student, but when we try and play it it won't play...

Hmm.

You ought to use the <iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kvxADJ0iOgM"<http://www.youtube.com/embed/kvxADJ0iOgM> frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Code rather than <object/> code, but they both work.

Let me see if I can figure it out.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Joanne Shirley
Sent: 23 August 2011 11:57
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

First code for video that wont play:

<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"></param><param<http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0%22%3e%3c/param%3e%3cparam> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

Second code for video that wont play:

<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"></param><param<http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0%22%3e%3c/param%3e%3cparam> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>


Code for video that will play:


<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"></param><param<http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0%22%3e%3c/param%3e%3cparam> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>


All videos were created in the same way using Camtasia  and uploaded to YouTube at the same time  - all will play through YouTube.




http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhee
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 23 August 2011 11:34
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2
Post the embed code you're using

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Joanne Shirley
Sent: 23 August 2011 11:15
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

Hi again Julian

Thanks I have asked for the youtube rlm file to be updated - but then I have looked again on Youtube to try and determine differences:

The ones that dont play - have a message "Video blocked in some countries Viewcopyright Info" displayed next to them   - all the ones that play ok in Xerte dont have this??????
Ta  Jo





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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>]
Sent: 22 August 2011 16:43
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2
Hm. That needs investigating then.

The other thing to do is see if you have the current youtube.rlm file on your server, because we have had to keep up with several changes to YTs embed code... the most current one is attached,

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 22 August 2011 16:40
To: Xerte list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

If I put this directly in the browser address bar:
http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ


It launches and plays as expected.



Doing the same with
http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE


Immediately gives me an intermediate black screen with warning:



"This video contains content from SME. It is restricted from playback on certain sites".



Then there is a link. "Watch on youTube"


Clicking the link launches the video.
"This video is unlisted. Only those with the link can see it".


So it looks like a difference in the publishing aspect.

Public vs private?










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From: joanne.shirley at snc.ac.uk<mailto:joanne.shirley at snc.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:48:38 +0100
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2
The videos play fine in YouTube  - this is the old embed code for the videos:  I have 3 in total  - 1 of them will play fine in Xerte  - 2 will not  - this is the code of one of the ones that will not.
LI Student Council xerte.wmv

<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0>></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/kvxADJ0iOgM?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

Learner Involvement Introduction for xerte.wmv
<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0>></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/q-t89QjmgEE?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>


This is the code of the one that will plan fine in Xerte:

Privacy
Public Unlisted (Only people with the link can view) Private (Login required to view)
Privately share this video with up to 50 people:
Add people to share with...
Comments
Allow comments automatically Allow friends' comments automatically; all others with approval only Allow all comments with approval only Don't allow comments
Allow users to vote on comments
Video responses
Allow video responses to be added automatically. Allow responses after I approve them. No, don't allow video responses.
________________________________
Allow this video to be rated by others. External sites may embed this video. Make this video available on mobile phones and TV.
Choose a thumbnail for your video
Choose a video still to represent your video in search results and other displays. Note: it can take up to 36 hours for your image to be updated.
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Overlay.
Map Location: SearchClear
Which figure resembles your video the most? Learn more<http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=157640>
[cid:image006.png at 01CC6BE7.85683C00]
Single image in frame (normal video)
[cid:image007.png at 01CC6BE7.85683C00]
2 images in the same frame
Go back to the previous step
[cid:image007.png at 01CC6BE7.85683C00]
2 images in the same frame
What is the layout of the 2 videos? Learn more<http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=157640>
Side by side: Left-hand video on the left-hand side Side by side: Right-hand video on the left-hand side Top to Bottom: Left on top Top to Bottom: Right on top None of the above
Preview the video in the player below before saving changes!
Go back to the previous step
[cid:image006.png at 01CC6BE7.85683C00]
Single image in frame (normal video)

This video can't be displayed in 3D.
3D videos must be filmed with a 3D camera. Sorry about that. :\
Learn more<http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=157640> about creating 3D videos.
Take a look at<http://www.youtube.com/user/3d> some examples of 3D videos.
Description: Category: Tags: Licence: close

close
LI sexual health xerte.wmv

<object width="420" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0>></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0"<http://www.youtube.com/v/EBhAUGHsElQ?version=3&hl=en_GB&rel=0> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="345" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>




Kind Regards

Jo

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 22 August 2011 15:25
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

The old ones still work, the new one doesn't.

Can you play the video directly in youtube (i.e. has it finished converting and is available for play)

Can you send me the embed code to test please?

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Joanne Shirley
Sent: 22 August 2011 15:14
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Cc: Rob Tyler; Lesley Taylor; 'Whittamore, Alan'
Subject: [Xerte] Embedding a Youtube clip into Xerte 1.0.2

I have previously created my own videos using Camtasia and uploaded them to youtube as a WMV file.  I had no problems last year embedding the code into Xerte and it playing fine.

I have done the same last week  - although the video embeds it does not play.  The only difference I can see is that the most recent videos have "HD" next to them.

Is this why - or are there any changes / errors I should be aware of .  I have tried re-embedding my videos I created last year and they work fine.  See screen dump below  the bottom two embed and play fine  the top ones (most recent)  embed but wont play   - please help


Thanks  Jo Shirley  SNC

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