[Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Fri Jun 17 09:51:55 BST 2011

>This morning I added another condition so that if a tall image is added the maxheight is only reduced if a transcript is added

Good: you need to watch out for all the permutations / optional properties and implications...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 17 June 2011 08:40
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Ron - quick message - does the transcript function have a scroll bar function as with the video transcript button function? Just wondering how much text can be entered into the transcript entry slot.

andy

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 16 June 2011 22:34
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Subject: [Xerte] Re:transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Ok cheers thanks for the clarification.

Been thinking that this provides another way to use xpert attributed image e.g. use the embed code option and paste the url in the image field (with single quotes) and the rest of the code in the transcript box. Example here http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_8835

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 16 June 2011 21:46
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Great. Just check any xerte stuff, templates etc into the xerte svn. The only changes that should be commited to the toolkits svn are changes to the web aplication itself. I copy files from the xerte repo into the toolkits one to keep it up to date, and when I do that I make new xtp files from the xerte svn as well, so for xerte stuff I consider the xerte svn as the definitive files when making a new zip, or updating Xerte. For any php / toolkits code, i.e. the web application (or 'Pat's stuff') the toolkits svn is definitive. I work and develop in my checked out xerte svn all the time, and look for any updates each morning,

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 16 June 2011 21:28
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?
done!
Committed to both toolkits and xerte.

And for anyone using the Techdis sandpit this transcript option is available in the graphic and sound page.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 16 June 2011 16:51
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

It's just the transcript thing, yes? Then, yes, no worries, I just didn't have time to code it today, and as it happens you've done it already...

You have commit rights to the svn - is it easy to commit an updated textGraphics.rlm and update the main .xwd?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 16 June 2011 15:37
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Andy
you wouldn't need to send the whole zip. In the zip there are only two files that have changed but these also have different names so would need to be renamed.

>From the newer zip posted in my later message as a link rather than attachment the two files that would need to be replaced on your server are as follows:
1. rename template.rlt to Nottingham.rlt and replace the version in your installation \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\Nottingham.rlt
2. rename template.xwd to data.xwd and replace \modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\data.xwd

It's Julian's call whether these additions/changes are included in the Notts downloads and I'm sure he'll confirm that either way.  It would be good if they are and if Julian confirms that you could still follow the instructions above because the files would obviously be the same.

Regards
Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 16 June 2011 15:08
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Thanks for the attention to this issue.

Ron, is that a zip I should send to the company hosting my uni's XOT version or something that will be incorporated into XOT itself and I'll need to advise them to update their XOT install once notified change has been incorporated?

Andy

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 16 June 2011 14:26
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttionfor audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Noticed a slight error with that previous attachment if the magnifier optional property was added (it didn't show) and obviously doesn't exist on the video page. This is fixed in this version.

Julian - I used your menuBug attachment as the starting point for this so it's only the .xwd and textGraphics.rlm that's changed.

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 16 June 2011 14:09
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Try this...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 16 June 2011 13:36
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

Ahhhh, I get it. Thank you.

Andy

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 16 June 2011 13:28
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio onGraphics andSound pagetype?

It can. Someone will have to code it.

In the meantime, you can make a video from the sound file you have, and add an image then use it in the vdeo page where the transcript functionality is already there.

I think the messages are coming back in a funny order.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 16 June 2011 13:26
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio on Graphics andSound pagetype?

Sorry Julian - not following the connection for your last post.

I'm just wondering if a transcript button can be set up for the media player when I create a sound file in the Graphics and Sound pagetype.

Andy

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 16 June 2011 13:19
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio on Graphics andSound pagetype?

Yes, you can easily make the video in Windows Movie Maker.

Start a new project, import a sound, import a picture and stretch it across the timeline and output the video. Most likely that will give you a .wmv, so you'll need to convert it to flv format. You could add several pictures if appropriate,

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 16 June 2011 12:29
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: transcript buttion for audio on Graphics and Sound pagetype?

Sounds like a sensible idea. My only suggestion would to be to see if the label of the 'transcripts' button could be changed by the creator. For example, in some cases it is more appropriate to add 'notes' or something similar (rather than a transcript) to a video (graphics/sound).

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Davidson, Andrew
Sent: 16 June 2011 12:04
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Subject: [Xerte] transcript buttion for audio on Graphics and Sound pagetype?

Hi - I am working with XOT templates and have been working on the Graphics and Sound pagetype for Media. Recently, Julian was able to get the transcript button working for the Video page type and now I wonder whether it would be possible to have a transcript button option for the Graphics and Sound pagetype. Please see images for reference. The reason I think this would be valuable is that the space taken up by my transcript in the text entry location could be used for task instructions and, for example, reflection questions for the student as they listen. Then, if needed, they could click on the transcript. As it is, having the transcript so visible might lead some students to just read it anyway without first trying to listen.

What thinks?

Oh, thanks for sorting out the video transcript button, Julian. Much appreciated.

Andy

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