[Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizardstoincorporaterecent changes to pageTemplates rlm files

Fri Oct 15 13:35:46 BST 2010

Hello Julian,

Sorry to be a pain.

Any chance the rebuild will happen in the near future. I was just tidying up
my emails and came across one from July expressing interest in the new page
wizards, so I am keen to be able to make them available.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 15 September 2010 14:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:

>  At some point I will do, yes. It takes a while to rebuild everything and
> make sure everything is up to date, so bear with me,
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 15 September 2010 14:10
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page
> wizardstoincorporaterecent changes to pageTemplates rlm files
>
>
>
> Do you have any plans to update the Xerte setup.exe download from the main
> web site so as to incorporate your changes into the Xerte release, any time
> soon?
>
>
>
> Up to now I have kept the page wizards up to date by downloading the latest
> version of Xerte and then creating a page templates project and comparing
> the files in the project, using winDiff, to the previous release of Xerte. I
> would find that much easier than downloading a number of separate updates.
> It ensures that my build of Xerte has all the files it needs to support the
> models e.g. if there have been changes in the build itself or in related swf
> or fla files.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 15 September 2010 13:29, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> They are in the Xerte repo at code.google.com/p/xerte
>
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>
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>
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 15 September 2010 13:25
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page
> wizardstoincorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files
>
>
>
> Sorry about the delay in testing.
>
>
>
> I have included your modified rlm file details in the page wizard and the
> issue with premature feedback display appears to be fixed.
>
>
>
> I took a look in the svn but this shows an upload date of June 2009. I also
> downloaded the latest Xerte today but the models appear unchanged from those
> I downloaded on July 28th.
>
>
>
> Can you tell me where I can access the latest page templates project
> template files that contain the updated files for the pages that you were
> going to fix, as discussed above, so that I can finalise my next release of
> page wizards.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 2 September 2010 16:50, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Fixed it. See attached. At least I can’t break it anymore by following your
> instructions…
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
>
> *Sent:* 02 September 2010 11:34
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizards
> toincorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files
>
>
>
> Hello Julian,
>
>
>
> I have just created a new project using the current version of Xerte
> (downloaded last night) and created a gap fill page to test.
>
>
>
> Display of the feedback at an incorrect time does not happen often but I
> have managed to create a sequence of events that appears duplicable.
>
>
>
> Create a new pageTemplates based project, add a gap fill page and a title
> page (the latter may not be critical to the test, but I was also trying out
> the effect of returning to the page during my tests, so needed a second
> page).
>
>
>
> In the gap fill page wizard set interactivity to drag drop and mark the gap
> fill text as in the example below.
>
>
>
> Enter interactive text here. To mark words for the exercise select the
> |word| using the mouse and |right-click|, choosing 'mark word' from the
> |menu|.
>
>
>
> Now preview the page and in this order:
>
> 1.      drag "right-click" to its correct location,
>
> 2.      drag word to its correct location,
>
> 3.      *Do not drag "menu" to its correct location.*
>
> 4.      Now left click on the right-click correct location and the
> feedback will be displayed,
>
> 5.      left click again on this location and the feedback will disappear.
>
>
>
> I was also able to duplicate the displacement of the mouse pointer from the
> dragged word by dropping a word on an incorrect place marker and then
> attempting to catch the word by clicking on it as it was returning to its
> start location. The only way I could release the word so that I could pick
> it up properly was to click on another word. This is probably not a major
> issue as the only time it would prove problematic was if you managed to pick
> up the last available word in this way, and to do so you would be being
> somewhat perverse as by then its correct location should be obvious.
>
>
>
> With respect to the column page. I tried to acheive a situation where the
> picture was constrained by the column width and the text area was then sized
> to fit the space remaining in the column. This would have preserved the
> aspect ratio of the picture and allowed for different sized pictures to
> leave space for as large a text area as would be allowed by the picture
> size. It would then be for the user to select pictures sensibly and make
> size adjustments if necessary in the event of wanting to use a very tall and
> slim picture. But I couldn't get this to work.
>
>
>
> I downloaded Xerte last night and the models appear to be the same as those
> I downloaded on the 28th July.
>
>
>
> Where can I gain access to your updated models?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 September 2010 11:28, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Just worked through these – thanks for the info:
>
>
>
> ‘Links’ is fixed.
>
> Files only consume one .css file, but individual text icons can consume
> their own .css if need be.
>
>
>
> Morph Image is fixed.
>
>
>
> Categories is amended – thanks.
>
>
>
> Column page: it works the way it always has done, in that it will try and
> fit the text to the page, and the image in whatever space remains. If more
> text exists than can be displayed, it fails. This was always a FOL, but it
> should probably behave better: questions is, what should it do, and at what
> point does the scrolling text kick in (when the image occupies less than
> half the space? Less than one third?)
>
>
>
> Can you tell me how to reliably replicate the gap fill issue with feedback?
> I can’t replicate it in my example. I haven’t added a ‘show me’ button yet,
> but can easily do that.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 25 August 2010 14:07
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizards to
> incorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files
>
>
>
> Hello Julian,
>
>
>
> I downloaded the latest Xerte 2 in July and have been working on the
> updates to the rlm files to create new page wizards for Links and
> MorphImages.
>
>
>
> I have hit a few issues with some of the pages. Blue items are issues that
> you may wish to look at in the pageTemplates version, Red issues are
> currently preventing me from releasing an updated wizard so any help you can
> offer would be most appreciated. Green issues are requests for features.
>
>
>
> *Links*
>
> ·         The pageTemplates version xml needs changing as it sets the
> default height of the links to "medium" but the code uses numerical
> values. This corrects itself when you change the height in the wizard but
> the default xml needs to replace the height value of "medium" with "80".
>
> ·         There appears to be a bug in the links template. Create a new
> links page and make it the second page in your project. Leave the default
> column setting of 3 and add one link. At this point you can preview and go
> back and forward between pages 1 and 2 without problem. Now open the Link
> page wizard and add a second link. Then preview the project and go back and
> forward between pages 1 and 2. You should now see a third undefined link
> displayed, which is not reflected in the xml. Add a fourth column and you
> should be able to generate a fourth undefined link by going back and forward
> between pages 1 and 2.
>
> ·         I figured out how to add a style sheet to a project so that the
> links would show as underlined. However I note that in the Xerte page
> templates projects there are two style sheets in the common folder
> "styles.css" and "wikistyles.css". Is there a way by which a Xerte project
> can consume more than one css file?
>
> *MorphImage*
>
> ·         The pagetemplates version fails to display tooltips - there is
> an incorrect reference on the image icons and no tooltip property in the
> wizard.
>
> ·         I have modified the Page Wizard version to provide for
> specification of tooltips for image 1 and image 2 and to also allow images
> to extend to fill more of the page if it is a larger image. (maxWidth to 600
> in calculate script attached to onLoadGraphic1 so as to allow more space for
> larger pictures, also I reduced the height of the text icon with id of
> "textBlock" to 440 as otherwise a large amount of text can displace the Zoom
> buttons position onto the bottom configuration selections.
>
> *Categories*
>
> ·         This no longer makes any use of labelHeight so this can be
> removed from the xwd and xml files.
>
> *ColumnPage*
>
> ·         Not sure what the two lines of changes are intended to do (lines
> 63 and 64). The page still appears to have a problem with sizing the text
> area of the column so that pictures remain on screen and the text auto
> scrolls within the remaining space available for the text. I tried to find
> create a fix for this but ended up with text areas that fitted the available
> space but the displayed text font size had shrunk to enable the text to all
> fit in, rather than auto scrolling.
>
> *GapFill*
>
> ·         This page appears to present feedback inconsistently when in
> drag and drop mode. I found this to also be an issue with the previous
> version of the rml when I went back to test it. In the drag and drop mode
> feedback is sometimes displayed on partial completion of the exercise, or
> may be displayed only then to disappear. I also found that sometimes with
> the new model the word would become displaced from the mouse pointer, but
> still being dragged around. I think this happened when it somehow got
> reattached to the mouse pointer whilst returning to its start position after
> an incorrect drop. I could not duplicate this in the earlier version of the
> rml.
>
> ·         When in fill in gap mode It would also be helpful if there was
> some way out of the exercise i.e. a way of giving up and seeing the correct
> answers. Currently you just keep making guesses.
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
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