[Xerte] e-learning editor-which one?

Tue Feb 9 22:19:44 GMT 2010

OK thanks Fred,
Great advice. Any idea of other forums that would help me in deciding on
an e-learning packaging system? I have tried to contact Compendel but their
'contact' page didn't work...so i left a message on Twitter, but if you can
pass this email onto them that may help as well.
Thanks
JohnD

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:33:33 -0000, Fred Riley
<Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:
>> I am using and selling space on a LMS to individual teachers 
>> (not coders)and any body who would like to have a safe secure 
>> spot on the web for their students to access their work.
>> To start with i was just looking for an organiser to assembly 
>> ideas into content and then upload individual bits of data 
>> into the LMS.
> 
> My immediate thought is that you do need a packager rather than a
> development tool, which would explain why you mentioned RELOAD. However,
> RELOAD is highly user-unfriendly and 'quirky', and IMO strictly a tool
> for those who understand metadata and packaging. I'd rather not use it
> for packaging as it does my head in every time but it is, simply, the
> only game in the Open Source town. I'd never inflict it on ordinary
> users, though. A possible commercial alternative would be Compendle
> (http://www.compendle.com/) produced by MyKnowledgeMap
> (http://www.myknowledgemap.com/) (yeah, I know, crap names, but what can
> you do?), which I know is being used with the NHS Learning Object
> repository (an installation of Intralibrary) to enable ordinary NHS
> users to contribute materials, and more importantly compile materials
> into packages which can be imported into LMSs. How effective it's
> proving I couldn't say as I'm only a contributor to the repository. 
> 
> However, we're moving off-topic for the Xerte list, and I'd advise you
> to pursue packaging tools further on other e-learning-related lists. 
> 
>> I guess Reload or Xerte would do fine for 
>> this....and Xerte has a few more templates, which could be a 
>> lot of fun for my students to use. I dont believe i or my 
>> clients have the skill (non coder) to create total elearning 
>> developments. 
> 
> Xerte (both the desktop tool and toolkits) is very good for creating
> e-learning applications and learning objects, not so good at collating
> existing content into packages. However, I'm no Xerte expert and sit
> ready to be corrected by the developers who watch this list with eagle
> eyes. 
> 
>> I do have one question that i would like to know the answer to please.
>> Does SCORM actually work. Do people create course work , Zip 
>> it up and place it in a LMS (that is SCORM compliant)...and it works?
> 
> SCORM, like IMS from which it's derived, is just a metadata and
> packaging schema. In that sense it works. Do people package in SCORM and
> IMS for import to LMS/VLE? Yes, because these are international
> interoperability standards. Does import work? Usually, but that's down
> to the LMS/VLE companies - WebCT used to be sh1te at IMS import despite
> falsely claiming IMS compliance, but in recent years they've fixed this
> and now IMS packages can be imported, complete with structure and
> metadata, seamlessly into the VLE. I know - I've done it. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Fred Riley
> Learning Technologist
> School of Nursing, Midwifery and Physiotherapy, University of Nottingham
> Vcard: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/nursing/sonet/about/fr_uon.vcf  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I value all comments.
>> Cheers
>> JohnD
>> 
>>  On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:04:18 -0000, Fred Riley 
>> <Fred.Riley at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > That's rather a vague 'user requirement', John. There are more 
>> > authoring tools / development environments than pips in a 
>> pomegranate, 
>> > so you really need to be a bit more specific. There isn't a 
>> tool which 
>> > doesn't "handle multimedia easily" - even Microsh1te Word 
>> can do that.
>> > 
>> > The two environments you mention are highly unsuitable for 
>> e-learning 
>> > development. Eclipse is a programming framework developed 
>> by IBM aimed 
>> > at distributed programming teams in large corporate environments. 
>> > RELOAD is a metadata editor which I have a lot of 
>> experience of, and 
>> > which you would use to 'bag and tag' resources into IMS or SCORM 
>> > packages for import into repositories and LMS/VLE-style 
>> environments.
>> > 
>> > Cheers
>> > 
>> > Fred
>> > 
>> > Fred Riley
>> > Learning Technologist
>> > School of Nursing, Midwifery and Physiotherapy, University of 
>> > Nottingham
>> > Vcard: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/nursing/sonet/about/fr_uon.vcf
>> > 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of 
>> >> john at digitalteacher.com.au
>> >> Sent: 09 February 2010 02:22
>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] e-learning editor-which one?
>> >> 
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I have just got connected to an LMS and for my customers (and 
>> >> myself)I am looking for a suitable editor.
>> >> Some design needs are:
>> >> Must be able to handle multimedia easily Free or cheap Easy to use 
>> >> (non coders)  I am looking at Reload...any views on 
>> Reload....  and 
>> >> does anyone know about Eclipse?...looks like a very worthy 
>> business 
>> >> cheers John Doubleday 
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