[Xerte] maxos

Thu Aug 5 10:00:55 BST 2010

I was only trying to clarify what the problem is and why any potential
solution is a bit tricky. I'd love to be able to 'just make it work' but
I can't do that for all the reasons we've mentioned,

Thanks,

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 05 August 2010 09:44
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] maxos

Hi Julian

I wasn't saying the YouTube page uses rss_proxy but perhaps my reply to
David read like that. I also clarified that in an off-list discussion
with Thomas.

I was just trying to explain to David and Thomas that the wikipedia, rss
and delicious pages (not sure if there are others) won't work out of the
box (without tweaking code) if exported and imported rather than linked
or embedded. This is not a criticism I fully understand why this is the
case and for lots of other reasons the main message should be to link or
embed from a central installation rather than export and import. I know
that might not be an option for MAXOS users but I guess if there using
MAXOS because they don't have internet access e.g. offender learning
then the issues about feed pages are redundant anyway.

I guess if some organisations need for some reason to import LO's into
their vle's rather than link or embed your code below for the rss page
also points a way that they could tweak their own installation or copy
of maxos to link to a proxy page on their own server. But in my
experience that's a level of technicality that most FE colleges don't
have the resources to get into.

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 05 August 2010 08:41
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] maxos

Check the code. The youtube rss page calls directly to
http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos? - it doesn't use rss_proxy.
For individual youtube videos, we load their chrome-less player directly
and use it's API, again here's no toolkits server-side stuff required.
The You tube stuff ought to work..?

For RSS we use this:

if (templatePath.indexOf('modules/xerte') == -1){ //code is not running
in toolkits

  feedURL = pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;

} else { //code is running elsewhere - locally is fine because local
files can still request xml - but on another web server they can't

  feedURL = _level0.site_url + 'rss_proxy.php?rss=' +
pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;

}

to ask for rss_proxy to get involved only if the code is running in
toolkits. Locally, this should work fine - the same code is in the wiki
page.

The problem comes when you put the piece onto another web server. Then
you have the cross-domain issues, and our solution for that was to use
rss_proxy (it means the flash player can request and get xml from a web
server that hasn't got a corssdomain.xml file).

The solution is to use rss_proxy, but our problem is knowing where it is
to point to once content has been exported, or whether in fact it is a
good idea to have content exported from toolkits, maybe headed over to
someone else, but still draws on ours - or your rss_proxy.php.

Try hardcoding the path to your rss_proxy into the code above: that
should work. If your rss_proxy is on maxos (i.e. a local web server
running on your machine), then there is a further problem because it
probably won't be available to the content when it needs it, even if it
did have some idea where to find it.

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 04 August 2010 20:49
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] maxos

Hi Thomas

I wouldn't waste any time testing - it's fact not theory! :-) When
online those pages use a php page which isn't and can't be part of the
exported files.

And as you might hear in my youtube screencasts we possibly disagree
about recommending SCORM too ;-)

Regards

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rochford,
Thomas
Sent: 04 August 2010 20:40
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] maxos

Hi David,

I haven't seen *this* problem in the wild yet! Could it be that there is
some filtering taking place on the Institutional server? Would you be
happy to send me a copy of the LO so I can try it from our Moodle. 

You could also try uploading it to the Moodle server on the stick and
seeing if it works from there, perhaps. This is what I will do if you
send me the LO.  This would also test Ron's theory.

Also I always advise people to use the SCORM format. I'm at a loss to
think why this might work better as Moodle doesn't need SCORM as far as
I know, but at least it means you don't need to unzip it

Feel free to call me if you wish (number below)'

Kindest Regards,

Thomas

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Sugden
Sent: 04 August 2010 8:03 PM
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] maxos

Hi there,

I'm using Maxos. I have created a LO with YouTube video and Wikipedia
(everything else is working ok).

During production, everything works well when zipped up and uploaded to
a Moodle (and employed via Zip > unzip > index.htm) the wikipedia page
doesn't show (i.e. the page shows but without content - at all) and the
YouTube videos refuse to be controlled .. i.e. once they are playing
there is no pausing or stopping them.

Any advice?

David

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