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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I was only trying to clarify what the problem is and why any
potential solution is a bit tricky. I’d love to be able to ‘just make it work’
but I can’t do that for all the reasons we’ve mentioned,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 August 2010 09:44<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] maxos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wasn't saying the YouTube
page uses rss_proxy but perhaps my reply to David read like that. I also
clarified that in an off-list discussion with Thomas.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I was just trying to explain
to David and Thomas that the wikipedia, rss and delicious pages (not sure if
there are others) won't work out of the box (without tweaking code) if exported
and imported rather than linked or embedded. This is not a criticism I fully
understand why this is the case and for lots of other reasons the main message
should be to link or embed from a central installation rather than export and
import. I know that might not be an option for MAXOS users but I guess if there
using MAXOS because they don't have internet access e.g. offender learning then
the issues about feed pages are redundant anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess if some organisations
need for some reason to import LO's into their vle's rather than link or embed
your code below for the rss page also points a way that they could tweak their
own installation or copy of maxos to link to a proxy page on their own server.
But in my experience that's a level of technicality that most FE colleges don't
have the resources to get into.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 August 2010 08:41<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] maxos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Check the code. The youtube
rss page calls directly to <a href="http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos">http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos</a>?
– it doesn’t use rss_proxy. For individual youtube videos, we load their
chrome-less player directly and use it’s API, again here’s no toolkits
server-side stuff required. The You tube stuff ought to work..?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For RSS we use this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>if
(templatePath.indexOf('modules/xerte') == -1){ //code is not running in
toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> feedURL =
pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>} else { //code is running
elsewhere – locally is fine because local files can still request xml – but on
another web server they can’t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> feedURL =
_level0.site_url + 'rss_proxy.php?rss=' + pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>}<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>to ask for rss_proxy to get
involved only if the code is running in toolkits. Locally, this should work
fine – the same code is in the wiki page.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem comes when you
put the piece onto another web server. Then you have the cross-domain issues,
and our solution for that was to use rss_proxy (it means the flash player can
request and get xml from a web server that hasn’t got a corssdomain.xml file).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The solution is to use
rss_proxy, but our problem is knowing where it is to point to once content has
been exported, or whether in fact it is a good idea to have content exported
from toolkits, maybe headed over to someone else, but still draws on ours – or
your rss_proxy.php.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Try hardcoding the path to
your rss_proxy into the code above: that should work. If your rss_proxy is on
maxos (i.e. a local web server running on your machine), then there is a
further problem because it probably won’t be available to the content when it
needs it, even if it did have some idea where to find it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 August 2010 20:49<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] maxos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wouldn't waste any time
testing - it's fact not theory! :-) When online those pages use a php page which
isn't and can't be part of the exported files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And as you might hear in my
youtube screencasts we possibly disagree about recommending SCORM too ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rochford,
Thomas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 August 2010 20:40<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] maxos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I haven’t seen *<b>this</b>*
problem in the wild yet! Could it be that there is some filtering taking place
on the Institutional server? Would you be happy to send me a copy of the LO so
I can try it from our Moodle. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You could also try uploading
it to the Moodle server on the stick and seeing if it works from there,
perhaps. This is what I will do if you send me the LO. This would also
test Ron’s theory.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also I always advise people
to use the SCORM format. I’m at a loss to think why this might work better as
Moodle doesn’t need SCORM as far as I know, but at least it means you don’t
need to unzip it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Feel free to call me if you
wish (number below)’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kindest Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas Rochford, e-Learning
Advisor, JISC Regional Support Centre - Eastern</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel: 07500 669002 e-mail: <a
href="mailto:h.jones@rsc-eastern.ac.uk">t.rochford@rsc-eastern.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RSCs - Stimulating and Supporting
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[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Sugden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 August 2010 8:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] maxos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Hi there,<br>
<br>
I'm using Maxos. I have created a LO with YouTube video and Wikipedia
(everything else is working ok).<br>
<br>
During production, everything works well when zipped up and uploaded to a
Moodle (and employed via Zip > unzip > index.htm) the wikipedia page
doesn't show (i.e. the page shows but without content - at all) and the YouTube
videos refuse to be controlled .. i.e. once they are playing there is no
pausing or stopping them.<br>
<br>
Any advice?<br>
<br>
David<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
David Sugden<br>
<a href="mailto:dsugden@gmail.com">dsugden@gmail.com</a><br>
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