[Xerte-dev] Re: Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Sep 8 14:10:27 BST 2017
I don't think it's about Answer or Option.... Frankly, I don't care.
The point is, that we need to be able to differentiate between the fact
that the user is changing the contents of the Answer or Option, and
changing the label used in the tree and the label used for tracking.
Tom
Op 8-9-2017 om 14:09 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> No worries!
>
> Could we do the auto-increment thing do you think? Is that a good
> idea? And use incremenr=”true” in the .xwd to add a count of the
> children to the end of the string?
>
> Question1
>
> -Option1
>
> -Option2
>
> -Option3
>
> Question2
>
> -Option1
>
> -Option2
>
> -Option3
>
> Would be the best thing from my point of view, and then it’s obvious
> what it’s for. ‘Tree’ doesn’t mean anything to most users. ‘Answer
> label’ to me sounds like the name of the property, rather than its
> value – why did you reject ‘option’ as the string? I seem to remember
> a similar semantic discussion years ago when we came up with
> ‘question’ and ‘option’
>
> Julian
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 08 September 2017 11:27
> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label
>
> Apologies for answering only to you, it was my full intention to
> answer the list. Honestly :-)
>
> I do agree that 'A - Tree/Tracking Label' is confusing, but also
> because of the abbreviation of Answer and Question.
>
> Like I said, I prefer to make this 'Answer - Tree/Tracking label' or
> even better 'Answer label'
>
> What would be interesting to know is, if you can go back to the people
> who asked and were confused, and explained the functionality: how
> would they like it to be called?
>
> Tom
>
> Op 8-9-2017 om 11:43 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> Can we please keep the discussion in the open? I’d appreciate
> other’s points of view. Sometimes there is a good reason to take
> the discussion off list, but we ought to be discussing in the open
> otherwise. We can’t function well as a community if people are not
> aware of what is being discussed and have an opportunity to
> contribute. If we would prefer to have a private list, rather than
> a public list for this then we can discuss that, but I don’t see
> what’s wrong with discussing general developments in public. It
> shows people who are interested that activity is going on, and
> even provides the means for them to contribute. It is defined in
> our governance policy:
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/wiki/6.-Decision-Making-Process.
>
>
> From my point of view the confusing part is ‘Tree/Tracking label’.
> Users do not know what that means. They probably don’t know what
> tree we refer to. They may not be using, or interested, in
> tracking. They want to make a quiz out of questions and answers,
> that’s the feedback I’m getting.
>
> Julian
>
> *From:*Tom Reijnders [mailto:reijnders at tor.nl]
> *Sent:* 08 September 2017 10:34
> *To:* Tenney Julian <cczjrt at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
> <mailto:cczjrt at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Xerte-dev] Quiz and Tree/Tracking Label
>
> I think the confusing part is the A
>
> So although I understand that we want to keep these texts short, I
> think we should change it to Answer - Tree/Tracking label, or if
> you prefer Answer label
>
> Same holds for other similar labels like Q - Tree/Tracking label
> of course.
>
> Op 8-9-2017 om 11:27 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> Hi,
>
> We’ve had some comments from users saying they don’t
> understand the ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’ string in the label
> field. I tend to agree this fails the FWS test. I don’t have
> any problem with the functionality as such, I can see it’s
> useful, but I think we need to change the string in the label
> field. ‘A – Tree/Tracking label’ is not intuitive, and I’ve
> had some ‘huh?’ emails from some reasonably adept users about it.
>
> In the past we had ‘question’ and ‘option’, which led to the
> tree view like…
>
> Question
>
> -Option
>
> -Option
>
> -Option
>
> Question
>
> -Option
>
> -Option
>
> -Option
>
> Etc
>
> Having the ability to control how the tree looks is an
> improvement on this, although we now have the same situation
> (albeit editable) where you produce this:
>
> Q - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> Q - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> -A - Tree/Tracking label
>
> etc
>
> This in my view is worse than what we had before. People know
> what a ‘question’ and an ‘option’ are. They haven’t the
> faintest idea what ‘A - Tree/Tracking label’ means, so I would
> favour taking it back to ‘question’ and ‘option’.
>
> Better would be if we could auto-increment the items as they
> are added so you get
>
> Question1
>
> -Option1
>
> -Option2
>
> -Option3
>
> Question2
>
> -Option1
>
> -Option2
>
> -Option3
>
> etc
>
> …but I don’t think we have that functionality anywhere in the
> editor at present. If we added a property to the xwd to say
> <blah… …increment=”true”/> presumably it wouldn’t be too
> difficult to add that functionality, and just add n to the end
> of the string based on a count of the children.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Julian
>
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