[Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Wed May 18 14:07:20 BST 2016 

Ok, not one large file. That's ok with me, and I do agree with the 
arguments.

Op 18-5-2016 om 13:37 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the 
> model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being 
> able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from 
> having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure 
> we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every 
> time we add a new page type.
>
> That's what I was worried about as well,
>
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
> Sent: 18 May 2016 10:25
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
>
> I've replied to the Doodle but wanted to put some of my thoughts here 
> so I don't forget before we catch up.
>
> I agree with John's email about restructuring the models, including 
> adding html / css via JS. This would make a lot of other things a lot 
> easier.
>
> I'm not sure we would want to go down the route of taking all the 
> model css out into a central file as doesn't that move away from being 
> able to easily customise / add in new pages etc.? We moved away from 
> having one large xwd file to having one for each model so I'm not sure 
> we'd want one large css file for models that we'd have to add to every 
> time we add a new page type.
>
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be 
> good if everyone could respond by the end of this week especially 
> those flying off!
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> ;-)
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Good idea
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail?
>
> There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work 
> on this too?
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> I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of 
> this week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps 
> once our 'conference reps' are back they could update us from the 
> conference and we could discuss this and other developments at the 
> same time? Worth doing a doodle to check availability say week 
> beginning 6th June?
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
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> Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate 
> the LO anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser 
> security as you can just load it into the head programatically and as 
> long as it's the same domain you can run it.
>
> Regards,
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> John Smith
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> From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com]
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> Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19
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> Cc: Smith, John
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> Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Would that work if locally ran exported?
>
> On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote:
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> > When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object
>
> > oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all
>
> > js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page
>
> > model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or
>
> > anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other
>
> > container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page
>
> > models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for
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> > example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd
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> > pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the
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> > html/css is built and where it would be loaded to...
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> >
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> > So you'd just have a couple of methods like
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> > buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... }
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> > buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... }
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> > The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on
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> > the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage.
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> > Either way it would be customisable....
>
> >
>
> > It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility,
>
> > including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page
>
> > which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single
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> > page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert
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> > the rest.
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> > Regards,
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> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
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> > Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22
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> > To: For Xerte technical developers
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> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> >
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> > Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would
>
> > we have implemented it? With specific model ids?
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> >
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> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
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> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom
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> > Reijnders
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> > Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06
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> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> > Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly....
>
> >
>
> > Thank you!
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> >
>
> > Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy):
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> > Place one model specific id at a higher level?
>
> > Or change body class on page turn?
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> >
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> > -------- Original message --------
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> > From: Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl 
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> > Hi All,
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> > When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed
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> > that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the
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> > models again and see if we can improve them.
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> > One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific
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> > css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and
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> > delete the inline styles from the model.
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> >  1.  It make it possible to override model specific css  2.  It make
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> > it possible to override model specific css in the themes
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> > Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use
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> > independent html id's and classes.
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> > What I would like to propose is to:
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> >  1.  Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are
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> > unique for that model (by prefixing?)  2.  Extract the inline css from
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> > the model files in a central file
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> > Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and
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> > in a theme.
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