[Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
Inge Donkervoort 12Change
i.donkervoort at 12change.eu
Sun Nov 16 19:53:26 GMT 2014
Hi to all designers :),
Thanks for all your help in advance.
From the forum and emails we got from the testers from the new editor
in the last few weeks, we extracted a list with remarks (see attachment).
Can you take a look at them? In addition to this list, some things are
already changed (see screen shots).
Because of previous messages in this list, we didn't mention the insert
dialog again.
All your other ideas are also welcome.
Just create a mock-up (and after that the the css files) and add them to
this list. When it's agreed by the rest we add the css to the beta version.
Good luck and have a lot of fun!
Bye,
Inge & Tom
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Pat L (pgogy - xerte) schreef op 16-11-2014 12:21:
> I was asked to do a mock up in powerpoint the other day but figured coding was faster :)
>
> I wonder if there is a case for different view options for an account?
>
> Also a recently used or 'already used in this project' list on insert?
>
> Wondering if there is also a case for making this the style for all editors and turning it into a library for others to use?
>
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Smith, Bradley" <brsmith at akamai.com> </div><div>Date:14/11/2014 18:49 (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> </div><div>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor </div><div>
> </div>With regard to the Insert Page dialog, I think the interface could use space more efficiently if it used breadcrumbs instead of nested menus, as in the mock-up screenshot below. The "Insert Page" breadcrumb would reset the menu on the left to show all of the top-level page types. This allows the dialogue to be resized once in a single div each time a submenu is selected, without the messiness of dynamic menus. It would also allow for an arbitrary number of submenus if having page sub(-sub-sub...)-types ever became desirable.
>
> The source for the mock-up (which is just a static html+css, not an actual implementation in Xerte!) is here:
>
> https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42
>
> Now excuse me, I need to go write "I will not say to myself 'I'll just throw together a quick mock-up, it won't take long', for that is a lie" on the blackboard 1000 times... :P
>
>
>
>
> ---Brad
>
> From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 4:30 AM
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
>> "We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date."<
>
> Absolutely! Happy to help too but very little time during November now.
>
> Ron
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 13 November 2014 09:13
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> It would be good to have discussions here about the sort of thing we want to achieve, I don't see why we can't move on a lot of the 'design' work between us: this is the sort of thing this list is for!
>
> This is where we are right now, and to start with it would be good to just try some ideas -- it's pretty close to the old editor:
>
>
>
> Also there are some bits that don't work very gracefully, where might need to come up with a better way:
>
>
>
> Also, the next release doesn't need to have any University of Nottingham branding in it.
>
> We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date.
>
> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley
> Sent: 12 November 2014 19:21
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> My html5/css skills are ok, and I might even be able to justify spending some work time on this, but it'll be hard to make guarantees. Given that there seem to be others in a similar position, could you just post a sketch (so to speak) of what problems you need solved to the list and/or in a GitHub issue so we can all discuss it?
>
> ---Brad
>
> From: Inge Donkervoort 12Change <i.donkervoort at 12change.eu>
> Organization: 12Change
> Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Design new editor
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you know we are working hard on the new Xerte editor. We are looking for someone to help us with the design. If you like to help us and have html5 and css skills then please let us now. It's all voluntary work but the gratefulnes from the community will be your reward ;)
>
> Bye,
> Inge
>
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>
>
> I was asked to do a mock up in powerpoint the other day but figured
> coding was faster :)
>
> I wonder if there is a case for different view options for an account?
>
> Also a recently used or 'already used in this project' list on insert?
>
> Wondering if there is also a case for making this the style for all
> editors and turning it into a library for others to use?
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Smith, Bradley"
> Date:14/11/2014 18:49 (GMT+00:00)
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> With regard to the Insert Page dialog, I think the interface could use
> space more efficiently if it used breadcrumbs instead of nested menus,
> as in the mock-up screenshot below. The "Insert Page" breadcrumb would
> reset the menu on the left to show all of the top-level page types.
> This allows the dialogue to be resized once in a single div each time
> a submenu is selected, without the messiness of dynamic menus. It
> would also allow for an arbitrary number of submenus if having page
> sub(-sub-sub...)-types ever became desirable.
>
> The source for the mock-up (which is just a static html+css, not an
> actual implementation in Xerte!) is here:
>
> https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42
>
> Now excuse me, I need to go write "I will not say to myself 'I'll just
> throw together a quick mock-up, it won't take long', for that is a
> lie" on the blackboard 1000 times... :P
>
>
>
> ---Brad
>
> From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>
> Reply-To: For Xerte technical developers
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 4:30 AM
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> >"We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace
> as well) up to date."<
>
> Absolutely! Happy to help too but very little time during November now.
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 13 November 2014 09:13
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> It would be good to have discussions here about the sort of thing we
> want to achieve, I don't see why we can't move on a lot of the
> 'design' work between us: this is the sort of thing this list is for!
>
> This is where we are right now, and to start with it would be good to
> just try some ideas -- it's pretty close to the old editor:
>
> Also there are some bits that don't work very gracefully, where might
> need to come up with a better way:
>
> Also, the next release doesn't need to have any University of
> Nottingham branding in it.
>
> We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace
> as well) up to date.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Smith, Bradley
> *Sent:* 12 November 2014 19:21
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
>
> My html5/css skills are ok, and I might even be able to justify
> spending some work time on this, but it'll be hard to make guarantees.
> Given that there seem to be others in a similar position, could you
> just post a sketch (so to speak) of what problems you need solved to
> the list and/or in a GitHub issue so we can all discuss it?
>
> ---Brad
>
> *From: *Inge Donkervoort 12Change <i.donkervoort at 12change.eu
> <mailto:i.donkervoort at 12change.eu>>
> *Organization: *12Change
> *Reply-To: *For Xerte technical developers
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM
> *To: *For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> *Subject: *[Xerte-dev] Design new editor
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you know we are working hard on the new Xerte editor. We are
> looking for someone to help us with the design. If you like to help us
> and have html5 and css skills then please let us now. It's all
> voluntary work but the gratefulnes from the community will be your
> reward ;)
>
> Bye,
> Inge
>
> 12Change
>
> Chopinlaan 27
> 5242 HM Rosmalen
> T 073-5226195
> M 06-50267104
> F 073-5226196
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> I www.12change.eu <http://www.12change.eu>
>
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