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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="-1">Hi to all designers :),<br>
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Thanks for all your help in advance.<br>
From the forum and emails we got from the testers from the new
editor in the last few weeks, we extracted a list with remarks
(see attachment).<br>
Can you take a look at them? In addition to this list, some
things are already changed (see screen shots).<br>
<br>
Because of previous messages in this list, we didn't mention the
insert dialog again. <br>
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All your other ideas are also welcome.<br>
Just create a mock-up (and after that the the css files) and add
them to this list. When it's agreed by the rest we add the css
to the beta version.<br>
<br>
Good luck and have a lot of fun!<br>
<br>
Bye,<br>
Inge & Tom<br>
<br>
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<pre wrap="">I was asked to do a mock up in powerpoint the other day but figured coding was faster :)
I wonder if there is a case for different view options for an account?
Also a recently used or 'already used in this project' list on insert?
Wondering if there is also a case for making this the style for all editors and turning it into a library for others to use?
<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Smith, Bradley" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brsmith@akamai.com"><brsmith@akamai.com></a> </div><div>Date:14/11/2014 18:49 (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: For Xerte technical developers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a> </div><div>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor </div><div>
</div>With regard to the Insert Page dialog, I think the interface could use space more efficiently if it used breadcrumbs instead of nested menus, as in the mock-up screenshot below. The “Insert Page” breadcrumb would reset the menu on the left to show all of the top-level page types. This allows the dialogue to be resized once in a single div each time a submenu is selected, without the messiness of dynamic menus. It would also allow for an arbitrary number of submenus if having page sub(-sub-sub…)-types ever became desirable.
The source for the mock-up (which is just a static html+css, not an actual implementation in Xerte!) is here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42">https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42</a>
Now excuse me, I need to go write “I will not say to myself ‘I’ll just throw together a quick mock-up, it won’t take long’, for that is a lie” on the blackboard 1000 times… :P
—Brad
From: Ron Mitchell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk"><ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk></a>
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Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 4:30 AM
To: 'For Xerte technical developers' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
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<pre wrap="">"We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date."<
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Absolutely! Happy to help too but very little time during November now.
Ron
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 13 November 2014 09:13
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
It would be good to have discussions here about the sort of thing we want to achieve, I don’t see why we can’t move on a lot of the ‘design’ work between us: this is the sort of thing this list is for!
This is where we are right now, and to start with it would be good to just try some ideas – it’s pretty close to the old editor:
Also there are some bits that don’t work very gracefully, where might need to come up with a better way:
Also, the next release doesn’t need to have any University of Nottingham branding in it.
We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date.
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:From:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">From:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley
Sent: 12 November 2014 19:21
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor
My html5/css skills are ok, and I might even be able to justify spending some work time on this, but it’ll be hard to make guarantees. Given that there seem to be others in a similar position, could you just post a sketch (so to speak) of what problems you need solved to the list and/or in a GitHub issue so we can all discuss it?
—Brad
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Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM
To: For Xerte technical developers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></a>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Design new editor
Hi all,
As you know we are working hard on the new Xerte editor. We are looking for someone to help us with the design. If you like to help us and have html5 and css skills then please let us now. It's all voluntary work but the gratefulnes from the community will be your reward ;)
Bye,
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I was asked to do a mock up in powerpoint the other day but
figured coding was faster :)
<div><br>
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<div>I wonder if there is a case for different view options for an
account? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also a recently used or 'already used in this project' list
on insert?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Wondering if there is also a case for making this the style
for all editors and turning it into a library for others to use?</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: "Smith, Bradley" <brsmith@akamai.com> </brsmith@akamai.com></div>
<div>Date:14/11/2014 18:49 (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
</xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></div>
<div>Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With regard to the Insert Page dialog, I think the interface
could use space more efficiently if it used breadcrumbs instead
of nested menus, as in the mock-up screenshot below. The “Insert
Page” breadcrumb would reset the menu on the left to show all of
the top-level page types. This allows the dialogue to be resized
once in a single div each time a submenu is selected, without
the messiness of dynamic menus. It would also allow for an
arbitrary number of submenus if having page sub(-sub-sub…)-types
ever became desirable. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The source for the mock-up (which is just a static html+css,
not an actual implementation in Xerte!) is here:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42">https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Now excuse me, I need to go write “I will not say to myself
‘I’ll just throw together a quick mock-up, it won’t take long’,
for that is a lie” on the blackboard 1000 times… :P </div>
<div><br>
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November 13, 2014 at 4:30 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 November 2014 09:13<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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the sort of thing we want to achieve, I don’t see why
we can’t move on a lot of the ‘design’ work between
us: this is the sort of thing this list is for!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">This is where we are right now, and to start
with it would be good to just try some ideas – it’s
pretty close to the old editor:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
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gracefully, where might need to come up with a better
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">We might want to think about bringing the whole
interface (workspace as well) up to date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, Bradley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2014 19:21<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">My
html5/css skills are ok, and I might even be able to
justify spending some work time on this, but it’ll
be hard to make guarantees. Given that there seem to
be others in a similar position, could you just post
a sketch (so to speak) of what problems you need
solved to the list and/or in a GitHub issue so we
can all discuss it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Donkervoort 12Change <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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