[Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

[Julian Tenney]

Yeah, we’ve had a right PITA with the embedded quicktime player.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 22 February 2013 13:22
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Which is ironic considering a big part of the move to html5 has been driven by the argument that ipads won’t do Flash so we should target html5…

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:51 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

From my experience of iPads - the html5 support is shocking. Events don't fire, the embedded QuickTime player sucks and so on.

Steve Jobs. Genius

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On 22 Feb 2013, at 12:28, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi John/all
you may have tested already I guess but thought I should add that unfotunately Popcorn Maker doesn't appear to work on iPads :-( Curiously on my iPhone the video plays but no pop ups are shown but on my iPad the video doesn't play either. I've only been testing the clip on the homepage at https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ but I've tried that with various browsers on my iPad and none work - shame!
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 21 February 2013 14:44
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Hi Ron,

Wasn’t aware of Popcorn before – looks good, will have to give it a try.

As for the videos, it should be possible to add a check for different video types but I’ll wait to catch up with Fay when she returns. Fay shared a page with me a while ago that had multiple audio and video formats and there were considerable problems getting them to play in all the browsers so maybe that has to be explored and we might need to have more than just mp4 and flv types, based on the supported browsers list… same goes for audio – we could actually build this into the xenith code and detect the browser and try the recommended video extensions. There’s no file_exists() command in js though so to test for existence would require an ajax request which could delay the video appearing…

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:41 PM
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Hi all
a quick question about this... I always advise people to use streaming services for video wherever possible and with the HTML 5 playback it's obviously much more flexible now regarding what can be used and in which page type which is great. However there are some occasions where it's justified to upload a small video direct to an LO especially to use the synched video page functionality but even just the plain video page too. For Flash playback obviously it's still an flv that needs to be uploaded but what's the current plan for HTML 5? I know there's been all sorts of previous discussion about player licensing and codecs etc but has anything been decided?

Is there perhaps a solution to check for an mp4 in the HTML 5 model with the same name as the .flv and if it exists use that instead of the .flv via html 5?

I know Fay isn't around until next week now but posting this now while I have time.

Also perhaps relevant I'm not sure if you've seen or used Popcorn Maker https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ but that provides a quick way of adding all sorts of synched events to video's and works well via the embed content page e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_html5_53

Cheers
Ron


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