[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Apr 12 11:02:06 BST 2013
Thank you!
That helps. Now I have an idea what's going on. I'll be back .. ;-)
Tom
Op 12-4-2013 11:53, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Ok I sighed ;-)
>
> Put those files over the top - no change except!...
>
> I then tested with Chrome and Firefox....
>
> I can change engine type via properties fine with Chrome and Firefox
> but not IE10. Tried compatibility mode same problem
>
> Also I can't create new LO's with any browser. I get the following error:
>
> http://localhost/xertetoolkits_new_svn/edit.php?template_id=FAILED-Failed%20to%20create%20new%20template%20record%20for%20the%20database%20INSERT%20INTO%20templatedetails%20%28template_id
>
> Also when it fails an odd thing happens to Workspace heading changes
> to INDEX_WORKSPACE ...
>
> and project create link similar...
>
> This is default guest authentication with no integration_path set.
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 09:40
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> These are the files themselves, not the patch on svn.
>
> This is 800k thought I could post that without too many issues.
>
> The first try was prohibited by the mail server (it found SilverLight
> in the site template), so I had to password protect the zip. Password
> is 'sigh'
>
> Tom
>
> Op 12-4-2013 10:22, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> Progress indeed,
>
> So... playing works if you manage to get the right entry in the db?
>
> Please check whether
> 1. play.php?template_id=##
> works as expected, i.e. with the flasg in the db
> 2. play.php?template_id=##&engine=flash
> always plays in flash regardless of db entry
> 3. play.php?template_id=##&engine=javascript
> always plays in html5/javascript regardless of db entry
>
> 4. preview.php?template_id=##&engine=other
> plays in engine oposite that in the DB
>
> I'll send you the files involved in the property management, i.e.
> toggling the flags.
>
> Op 12-4-2013 10:12, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> The patch I got from Julian is 2,327 but progress of sorts...
>
> Has anyone else got this working?
>
> I copied the modular_play.diff file again from the email
> received to file system
>
> Selected TortoiseSVN > Apply patch and selected that file then
> Patch all items
>
> Check upgrade.php it now has the function upgrade_4() - no
> idea why it didn't previously following exact same process
>
> TortoiseSVN > Export to a new empty folder
>
> Copy that code over existing working localhost install
>
> Visit upgrade.php
>
> This has now added the extra_flags column and set engine=flash
> for existing projects
>
> Existing projects play via Flash but...
>
> I can't change engine via properties - can't change ticks
>
> Can't create new LO's based on any of the templates - get
> failed to create template
>
> If I change an LO to engine=javascript direct in the db it
> plays via html5
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
> Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 07:34
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> The patch should be 2.382.324 bytes in size.
>
>
> Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Was the correct upgrade definitely in the patch?
>
> If it was my applying of the patch didn't work because
> that's not in the patched or exported code yet it is in
> basic.sql
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 14:33
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Strange.
>
> Upgrade should give you an extra column on templatedetails
> called extra_flags.
>
>
>
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> schreef:
>
> Cheers got it!
>
> I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet but not
> quite working for me...
>
> 1. Applied patch to local copy of svn code
>
> 2. Exported patched version
>
> 3. Dropped over a localhost test install
>
> I can see new options in the properties panel e.g. what is
> the default engine to use for this project with Javascript
> (a.k.a. HTML5) ticked
>
> But I can't untick that or tick the flash option
>
> When following the flash and html5 links I get an empty wondow
>
> and when trying to create a new LO I get an empty window
> with failed to create new template
>
> I ran upgrade.php but there doesn't seem to be anything
> new in there?
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 13:10
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> I've just sent it on...
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 12:29
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Didn't want to send It to the list . Julian has it.
>
> Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> schreef:
>
> Happy to test and feedback but where do I get the patch?
> 752 looks like Fay's update.
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 11:08
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> I am off-line the rest of the day. I'll send the patch to
> Julian.
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> As an addition:
>
> Now you can just use play.php&template_id=4 (or
> play_4). It will show :
> 1. if the template_frame=xerte in the engine set by
> the user
> 2. if the template_frame is site using
> modules/site/play.php
>
> Also, you can use play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash
> or play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript to force a
> specific engine.
>
> Some is true for preview.
>
> You can also use engine=other (this is used by the
> wizard when Ctlr+Play is pressed)
>
> I have to do the same for peer.php, but first would
> like some feedback ;-)
>
> Tom
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:38, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> Almost finished.
>
> I didn't change anything yet to modularize the
> properties page
>
> - Changed play.php (root) and
> modules/xerte/play.php and preview
> - Made play_html5.php (root) redirect to new play
> - Make use of the same template files as export
> does for the play and preview
> - Make wizard toggle the engine on Ctrl-click
> - Move site to its own module dir
> - Changed basic.sql
> - updates upgrade.php
>
> Not thoroughly tested yet, not committed yet
>
> Patch is not attached but available. (from svn 752)
>
> It's about 2.2Mb
>
> Op 10-4-2013 23:39, xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> <mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> schreef:
>
> Hello,
>
> Sorry for delay - travelling home from a
> conference.... again
>
> The properties page is at present not modular
> - as it is the same code for each module. At
> present only Xerte Online Toolkits modules
> will have more than one URL, hence it needs
> some "Module" work.
>
> I think I could see a case for giving XOT
> modules a new tab on properties which is HTML
> access - beca use in theory some of the
> projects are to become HTML5 projects. This
> tab could explain the process and give the
> preview and default setting options?
>
> This way the main properties tab with the
> links in could remain as is (for now) and as
> the XOT stuff is migrated then we could remove
> the tab
>
> OR
>
> You could modularise part of the properties
> page and give each module a URL _return
> function like what exists at present
>
> I sort of prefer the top version, but am not
> fussed
>
> https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-templatecanvas exists
> as well
>
> Peer.php doesn't exist for all projects, you
> can turn it on in the .info file should you
> want too
>
> REMEMBER
>
> if you add a new module you need to add the
> new language files as well
>
> Tom how do you want to divide the work on
> this? I don't feel it's fair for you to do it
> all given how much I've moaned about this :)
>
>
> Pgogy Webstuff http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of Web things of a fair to middling quality
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*
>
> "For Xerte technical developers"
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>
> *To:*
>
> "For Xerte technical developers"
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> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>
> *Cc:*
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> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:29:49 +0200
>
> *Subject:*
>
> [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
>
> There are some subtle differences:
>
> Yes, the user could delivery options in
> the property page, but you need to
> realise that the proerty page is also
> modular, the form is generated from the
> modules/<framework> php code. So... only
> xerte LO's would get that option.
>
> And then the URLs that would be provided
> will NOT be different, but the way the URL
> behaves, i.e. in the module play.php the
> DB is inquired to see which engine to use.
>
> I think that I go ahead and show you how
> everything is pieces nicely together.
>
> As an example, your 'site' stuff needs to
> have 'site' (or whetever you want to call
> it) in the originaltemplatesdetails table
> in the 'framework' column, and the
> play_site.php, preview_site.php and
> perhaps export_site.php should move to a f
> older modules/site and be called play.php,
> preview.php and perhaps export.php.
>
> Then you can use the regular 'root'
> play.php and 'root' preview.php... and
> even peer.php
>
> Right Pat?
>
> I am working on it, and provide you with a
> patch so you can test. Once you understand
> what is reuired, it is rather
> straightforward.
>
> If we're committing this, I'll will also
> write an article of how this works.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 10-4-2013 17:05, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> I'd prefer to say, finish your stuff,
> then I'll mangle
>
> Mangle away... this obviously has
> links to the propertie s panel and
> URLs for each piece as we discussed
> earlier in the week. To summarise the
> discussions, here's where I thought
> we'd got to:
>
> The user would select the delivery
> option from the properties panel;
>
> Different URLs would provide access to
> the content -- so the flash / html
> URLs would actually be available
>
> Principle: authors test and check
> rather than auto-conversion
>
> The setting in the properties panel
> would drive the URLs in the various
> feeds etc
>
> Principle: existing links continue to
> work
>
> Workaround: we can leave the
> play_html5.php page in place as it's
> not only Ron who is already putting
> content 'live' this way
>
> We need to accommodate the site
> template as well (which I'm going to
> have to rename for political reasons
> here, otherwise M&C will kill it.
> Learning Module?)
>
> Is there anything else? If we have a
> good list, we'll only have to do the
> work once...
>
> Thanks Tom and Pat for picking this up,
>
> Julian
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.acuk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* 10 April 2013 12:13
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
> htaccess
>
> I didn't make the changes last time
> (as sorry to sound like a stuck
> record) as I didn't think we'd agreed
> on it / added it to the road map. So I
> didn't want to waste a day of Fay's
> time in changing stuff.
>
> I felt xenith was important and so I
> didn't want to screw it up with the
> wrong sort of changes.
>
> You could place a header redirect in
> playhtml5.php to redirect the URL to
> another link, thus old links could be
> maintained - albeit as a work round.
>
> I'd prefer to say, finish your stuff,
> then I'll mangle
>
> Pgogy Webstuff -
> http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to
> middling quality
>
> *On 10 Apr 2013, at 11:24, Julian
> Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:*
>
> *Is there any way we can do both
> things, i.e. leave the existing
> stuff in place so things don't
> break, but build a new modular
> play engine that handles the
> modular stuff much better? When I
> put the site template in it was
> obvious that it was a bit of a
> pain, as you say having to add new
> files to the root folder is bad
> news, and having to modify other
> files in the root folder is also
> not so plug and play: there is
> specific (if (thisSortOfTemplate)
> do this else do that) code in ther
> e, which shouldn't be there really.*
>
> **
>
> *We wanted to put a new zip out on
> 26^th April, a tentative deadline.
> I don't mind waiting a few more
> weeks, but we really need to get
> this out there so that it can be
> installed in places before the
> summer -- so those who want to
> build materials for next year can
> use it over the summer. The end of
> May would be about as far as I'd
> want to wait I think.*
>
> **
>
> *What do others think?*
>
> **
>
> *From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> On Behalf Of
> xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> <mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>
> Sent: 10 April 2013 11:19
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
> and htaccess*
>
> **
>
> *True, and happy to shut up*
>
> **
>
> *But I first raised this in
> November -
> http://listsnottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html
> <http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte-dev/2012-November/002868.html> -
> but it didn't go anywhere*
>
> **
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
>
> *From:*
>
> *"For Xerte technical
> developers"
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>*
>
> **
>
> *To:*
>
> *"For Xerte technical developers"
> <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>*
>
> *Cc:*
>
> **
>
> *Sent:*
>
> *Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:41:32 +0100*
>
> *Subject:*
>
> *[Xert e-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
>
> Always we seem to hit something
> fundamental right before we're due
> to finish the work. There is a
> degree of frustration here with
> two things:
>
> - we have already worked through
> this twice: Fay has worked through
> it once with Pat to get the html5
> links working, and I have worked
> through it with Pat to get the
> site template working. Now we want
> to do it differently?
> - if you take pre-release code and
> it changes, well, that's sometimes
> life. Play_html5 was always
> intended as a way of beta testing
> the templates, rather than
> anything else.
>
> At this stage of things, I think
> we should go with what we have,
> and Tom's database solution
> solution, and get this phase of
> work done, and then address it
> later when we have a new cycle
> underway. I appreciate the issues,
> but there is no point in getting
> hung about functionality that no
> one is using yet (modularity), at
> the expense of functionality that
> everyone wants to use (htm l5
> delivery).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 09 April 2013 18:15
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
> and htaccess
>
> For me the basic principal must be
> whatever we want to be defaults
> for any new solution mustn't break
> existing links or require people
> to duplicate or re-write any code
> to maintain that compatibility.
> The vast majority will not have
> the time, skills or inclination to
> do that. So...
>
> /play.php?template_id=123 and
> /play_123 including the embed code
> links should continue to play
> existing LO's via Flash likewise
> /play_html5.php?template_id=123
> and /play_html5_123 should
> continue to work even if that's no
> longer the default for new html 5,
> 6 or 7 LO's.
>
> I can see the point about not
> referring to html5 and keeping it
> more future proofed and again I
> can't see a problem with changes
> like this or the new defaults
> being
> Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML
> as long as existing links aren't
> broken. But what would be the
> Apache/htaccess version of that?
>
> Over time JISC Techdis and other
> organisations and individuals have
> shared many links to LO's they
> have made public with the
> community, with their learners,
> with colleagues and this includes
> sharing of the play_html5 links.
> Rightly or wrongly that's what
> we've had since the 1.8 release so
> obviously we shouldn't break those
> links if we can possibly avoid it.
>
> HTH
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 09 April 2013 17:25
> To:
> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules
> and htaccess
>
> Howdy
>
> I personally think you need to run
> everything through the same page,
> with parameters Its the only way
> you can prevent worsening the
> situation 12 months down the line
> where we have many deployed play
> urls which have to be maintained..
> Plan to deprecate play_html5 and
> then people can rewrite that page
> to your main play.php page with
> method=html or even duplicate the
> main play.php file as play_html5
> if they must.
>
> Begs the question - should we drop
> references to html5 and just call
> it html - what happens if they
> release html6 in a few years?
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> "Pat @ Pgogy"
> <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> <mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Could we use the following URL
> structure?
>
> Can the play URL be
>
> Play.php?template_id=560
> And
> Play.php?template_id=560&method=HTML
>
> And not playhtml.php?
>
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