[Xerte-dev] Re: html5 link in properties

Thu Nov 15 10:04:15 GMT 2012

Sounds good to me. 

As you say perhaps eventually a single auto detect link which can also have parameters to force one or the other.

The preview button in the workspace also needs a solution similar to what you've enabled for the editor e.g. Ctrl + Click to preview html5 rather than Flash (I'm not sure how to detect/enable that but I'm sure Pat does?) then perhaps at some point in the future they reverse so that html5 is the default?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 15 November 2012 09:24
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: html5 link in properties

No I think it’s perfectly acceptable to say this is a beta. It might change. What will happen is that people will build real content with it and deploy in the link we provide for now. I don’t see any reason to take that away even if we change the way things work: we will need two urls or one parameterised one so people can choose which delivery system to force content down, as they will need to make a concrete choice in some cases. I could see a situation where there are three eventual choices:

- Auto-detect. Hit and hope. Works in 99% of cases, and delivers to the widest range of devices

- HTML5. Forces the content to use the html system. Maybe because the developer has added custom HTML5 bits which will not work in flash. Will have tighter minimum specs than auto-detect 

- Flash. Forces the content in to the Flash system. Maybe because the developer used a lot of flash content that doesn’t work in html very well, or custom xerte stuff etc. 

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 15 November 2012 09:14
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: html5 link in properties

That'll need a database change / some odd code though.

I get the desire to let people play, just worried it'd create a rod for our backs?

On 15 Nov 2012, at 08:48, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

It’s more complicated than that because some pieces are not going to work in html5 even in a new browser because of the way they are designed. So auto detection isn’t (all of) the answer. I think it should probably be author choice, with the default for new projects being HTML, old projects continue to use play.php.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 14 November 2012 16:01
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: html5 link in properties

<thoughts>
I don't think this is a good idea, it makes more sense to have a play.php which negotiates with the device to see what can be displayed?
</thoughts>

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Yes, commit it please. That’s on my to do list so if you’ve already done it that’s great.

Thanks

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 14 November 2012 15:42
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] html5 link in properties

Hi Fay/all

I noticed that Julian had committed an update to allow Ctrl  + Click html5 preview from the editor and also I know part of the 1.9 plans is to enable either the play_html5 link or auto detection or both but as a temporary measure for testing xenith development etc I had already been testing enabling a second play link in the properties window and I've uploaded this to the Techdis install for now but could commit the code if you want?

This involved a small addition to url_library.php and properties_library.php and well as properties_library.inc for the language string.

Have a look at the Techdis install and let me know if you want me to commit these additions?

For the moment I haven't duplicated the embed code box for the html5 version.

HTH

Ron

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