[Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

Mon Nov 12 11:37:12 GMT 2012

Good... :)

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:35 AM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

No, we don't

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 12 November 2012 11:33
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

Xenith editor?

Is this for text entry with the deployed LO? Do we need anything other than plain text for any of the models?

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:14 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

>tinyMCE
No, we're not looking at the editor yet.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 November 2012 11:13
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

How wordpress does it is you can say in PHP

load_scripts("jquery","tinyMCE") and it loads core files - if they are updated and your code fails, you need to keep your code up to date. A sort of tough luck story.

I think core is better - but I prefer 2's neatness in terms of support and so on.

is Xenith using tinymce?

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
I thought you would use the [root]/lib by default, otherwise use templatePath/common?

Developers will want to load their own libraries at times, which are template specific, so that use case is /common. It makes sense to have a set of central libraries that we all know and use: I can think of jQuery, jQueryUI, createJS and associated, popcorn.js. It would be *better* if folk used the core set, rather than introduce new libraries that do essentially the same thing.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 November 2012 11:01

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

Yes, but then you've opted for 2, unless when you install the template you put libraries in the shared folder. And then when you install a second template what if those libraries exist, or, what if the library is a more modern version and it breaks the other one?

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
But if the dependencies are distributed with the template, it would be OK?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 November 2012 10:58

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries

Yes, the *we* which is a developer can do so.

But if we think "app store" then the average user might have to go get X and Y and Z before a template will work, and the template needs to support a list of dependencies

So both are doable - it just means problems.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Can't we do both? Use the default libraries if they suit, otherwise load up a custom one?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 12 November 2012 10:52
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Shared libraries

Hello,

At present we have a library folder in 1.8 which contains bits of PHP.

In the root we have mapstraction and some other folders which aren't really "core" they just sit there.

I have three new templates, and there are "common" JS libraries between them.

1) Putting the shared libraries into a library folder would save space
2) but giving each template it's own version makes them self-contained.

I prefer 2

Thoughts

Pat

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