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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 12, 2012 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No, we don’t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2012 11:33<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Xenith editor?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is this for text entry with the deployed LO? Do we need anything other than plain text for any of the models?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John Smith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">School of Health & Life Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Glasgow Caledonian University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 12, 2012 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">>tinyMCE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No, we’re not looking at the editor yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2012 11:13<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">How wordpress does it is you can say in PHP<br>
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load_scripts("jquery","tinyMCE") and it loads core files - if they are updated and your code fails, you need to keep your code up to date. A sort of tough luck story.<br>
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I think core is better - but I prefer 2's neatness in terms of support and so on.
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is Xenith using tinymce?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span lang="EN-GB">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I thought you would use the [root]/lib by default, otherwise use templatePath/common?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Developers will want to load their own libraries at times, which are template specific, so that use case is /common. It makes sense to have a set of central libraries
 that we all know and use: I can think of jQuery, jQueryUI, createJS and associated, popcorn.js. It would be *<b>better</b>* if folk used the core set, rather than introduce new libraries that do essentially the same thing.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2012 11:01</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Yes, but then you've opted for 2, unless when you install the template you put libraries in the shared folder. And then when you install a second template what if those libraries exist, or, what if the library is a more modern version and
 it breaks the other one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But if the dependencies are distributed with the template, it would be OK?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2012 10:58</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"> [Xerte-dev] Re: Shared libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Yes, the *we* which is a developer can do so.<br>
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But if we think "app store" then the average user might have to go get X and Y and Z before a template will work, and the template needs to support a list of dependencies<br>
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So both are doable - it just means problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can’t we do both? Use the default libraries if they suit, otherwise load up a custom one?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2012 10:52<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Shared libraries</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">Hello,<br>
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At present we have a library folder in 1.8 which contains bits of PHP.<br>
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In the root we have mapstraction and some other folders which aren't really "core" they just sit there.<br>
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I have three new templates, and there are "common" JS libraries between them.<br>
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1) Putting the shared libraries into a library folder would save space<br>
2) but giving each template it's own version makes them self-contained.<br>
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I prefer 2<br>
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Thoughts<br>
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