[Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Fri May 11 11:50:57 BST 2012


Yes, this is what we have and Ron's words describe it well!

Thanks everyone.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 11 May 2012 11:50
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Ehmmm, can we get to a consensus ...

This is what I have up and running now...

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Op 11-5-2012 12:48, Ron Mitchell schreef:

ok here goes - revision of what we have right now...



There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged,

but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to

deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can

choose whether to export all of the project's files, or just those files

used by the project.



Export:



1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing

into a vle (without SCORM tracking), sharing via CD or USB etc or importing

into another XOT installation.



Checkbox (unchecked by default) Convert to local links where possible

Tick here if you want references to files uploaded to this LO via the Media

& Quota tab to be converted so that access to XOT is no longer required.





2. Archive export. Complete backup including all required files for offline

editing with the Xerte developer application or for sharing with other Xerte

developer application users.





If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or

SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM you need, the

SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.





SCORM Export:



4.SCORM 1.2 package



5.SCORM 2004 3rd Ed package



HTH

Ron



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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney

Sent: 11 May 2012 11:27

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)



Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be

covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and

perhaps now the community site.



No, I think we need to find the words to explain the scenario for this

option on the tab.



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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell

Sent: 11 May 2012 11:25

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)



Because that could lead to chaos! ;-)



It seems to me we all agree we have 4 export types/links + a checkbox to

convert to local if required.



Explaining why you would or wouldn't use that checkbox option could be

covered outside of the interface as it is with the Techdis tutorials and

perhaps now the community site.



Don't we have FWS with those 4 options + checkbox?



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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley

Sent: 11 May 2012 11:11

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)



i mean for sysadmins



you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let people

set it their way.



On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney

<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Flippin Well Simple.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04





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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







FWS ???



Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef:



Suggestion (to save inboxes)







Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have







export.inc as the default







if







export_modified.inc exists







then this is loaded instead of export







so you can have your own interface?



On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell

<ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk><mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>

wrote:



For me the real value of the local export is this:







User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to

link to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they

import them via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are

accessing from XOT all fine.







Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author

then needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to

local links or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to

local because there assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's

may contain links to lot's of online resources and sites so

connectivity is required even when viewing locally and keeping the

media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very useful especially

where assets are shared or updated regularly.







The checkbox option gives the author control which is great.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point

2 contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make

those two links in that line?



And what do we do with 'local'



All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo

somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we

only need to figure out how to do the UI right now.



Tom



Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef:



OK, lets do that.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron

Mitchell

Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and

effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to

swap 1 and 3







1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for

importing into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc

or importing into another XOT install



2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM

2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook



3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and

round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.











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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian

Tenney

Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







I'd switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron

Mitchell

Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52

To: 'For Xerte technical developers'

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.<







I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't

developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might

start off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the

same easy to use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the

way the create and edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's

installation. There were quite a few people at the event on Wednesday

who had been using Xerte not XOT but had started on the sandpit and

exported. The full export has always been useful in this respect and a

selling point. I can see things might need to change in the future but

please keep this for now unless there's really good reason not to?







Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as

self contained deployment - or is this different?<







In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than

scorm and then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to

index.htm. I appreciate that they would be better just linking from

XOT but for various reasons many still go the export route and

obviously sandpit users do this because of the monthly wiping. Another

reason is that display of scorm imports in Moodle in particular are

often constrained by the frameset display and/or sitewide scorm module

settings so people prefer the non-scorm route where score tracking

isn't required. I guess this might change if more page types are

tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's still a

need

for non-scorm deployment.







So tweaking your list...







1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and

round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.



2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for

importing into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc

or importing into another XOT install



3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM

2004 enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook







HTH



Ron











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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian

Tenney

Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







Maybe it's useful to list the scenarios:







Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004



Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as

self contained deployment - or is this different?)



Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits - this

is what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well?







That's all of them?







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian

Tenney

Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







This is starting to feel like a FWS failure.







In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the

originating server? Is that what 'full URL' means, i.e.

'http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/'







Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows

-> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in

-> the

future.

I don't know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly,

connectivity is everywhere, and there's less need to support this than

there was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment,

with a minimal set of files, including only the media used /

referenced in

the project.







AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.







It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at

different locations. When these projects are imported, the project

folder gets all the models / thumbs etc - this doesn't really need to

happen, but I'm not sure why Pat made it work like this - maybe just

easy coding, or maybe because we cope with templates the receiving

install doesn't know about, or templates that are out of synch with

the

receiving systems models / engine etc?).







The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that's straightforward.











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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron

Mitchell

Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44

To: 'For Xerte technical developers'

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever

zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte.







However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media

in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of

not including the files required to edit unless including them causes

a

problem?







Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe

keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have

to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously

the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this

context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files

required to edit as part of all the exports?







Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to

local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how

to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if

there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload

to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's.

This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place

so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or

localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo.







Cheers



Ron







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them.

The zip archives just contain the bare minimum.



I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen....

and then get rid of option 3.



Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef:



Have committed that small mod.







As far as I can tell option 3 works like this...







I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url

link



I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere







export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder

but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links







export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota

to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url.







I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a

different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I

guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert

the links to local links if the same lo.







However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the

moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported

with option 2 and 3.  If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but

then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the

file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine.







In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via

properties

media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is

uploaded.







I'll add these issues to the Google doc.







HTH



Ron







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-)



Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef:



Hi Tom



on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy

that has <br></br> in the relevant places e.g.











Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification?







Cheers



Ron







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron

Mitchell

Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09

To: 'For Xerte technical developers'

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each

link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake.







HTH



Ron







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







How about this for now?







Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef:



I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what

it is doing.



Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef:



Do we need to add some wording to  make this easy to understand: I

might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so

it

might read:







---------------------------------------



There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is

packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with

another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM

compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the

project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some

explanation around option 3 here].







Export   Zip Archive with all media files from the project



                Zip Archive with just the media files used in the

project



                Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda







If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM

1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM

you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.







Export   Scorm 1.2 Package



                Scorm 2004 Package.



---------------------------------------







Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the

point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail...







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders

Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)











Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef:



Yep.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders



Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30



To: For Xerte technical developers



Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you

guys



last week... :-)







I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the



functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?







Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:



Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?







Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.







I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders



Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52



To: For Xerte technical developers



Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that

there



are 5 exports:







Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or



mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to



look at that.







Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls







SCORM 1.2







SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data







SCORM 2004











As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use



SCORM with extra MetaData)







Tom







Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:



I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads

of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each

filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports

it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.







Otherwise we start ending up with a  slightly baffling local? Scorm?

Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get

something out.







Are these changes on the test server now?







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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders



Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23



To: For Xerte technical developers



Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)







That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,



The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the



export/download discussion.







Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:



Hi



Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&



Friday...







Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include

all



the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being



sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via

text



hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document

rather than



a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular

page



or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they

might



not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might

not



work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes

that



export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size

they



can delete unwanted media via media&    quota before exporting. e.g.

owner



should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might

simply be



as a backup of the whole project.







HTH



Ron















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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom

Reijnders



Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25



To: For Xerte technical developers



Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)







I just committed an update to the export code:







Fixes and additions for export



     - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the

/language



folder



     - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export



     - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only

if those



models are used



     - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied



     - small fixes in htaccess.conf



     - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php



     - get rid of superfuous scorm files



     - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of

scorm in



in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)











I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...







David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos.

Comitted



thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a



password in the database... ;-)







Tom







Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:



i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might



conflict.



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl><mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>     wrote:



I will, but they are really simple.







Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:



Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones



might have hungry regexs?







On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin<david at palepurple.co.uk><mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>



     wrote:



On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:







i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers



Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)







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