[Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name

[Kemp Johnathan]

In Page Wizards I used the name field exactly because it showed up in the
project tree, but in Xerte the name property does not have to do double
duty as the page title. The whole idea of using a PageID is that you can
change the page title as much as you like and not have to change the
pageID. If you have several links to a page based on page title and then
change the title you are going to have something of a problem tracking down
which pages link to it.

The ideal situation would be to use the property that displays in the
project tree, if only it was not being used as the page title. Since it is
there has to be a pageID to provide robust linking to other pages and to
accommodate those situations where several pages may need to share the same
page title.

I could look at what you suggest, trapping both the pageID and name
properties from the XML but I am concerned that people will use the page
title and then get themselves in a mess. An easy and safer solution to the
matter would be to simply paste the page title into the PageID field,
making it easier to locate a linked page and the link won't break if they
then modify the page title.

Using one page to link to a few others may not be much of an issue, but if
you have a project in which most of the pages are routed pages then
managing the links takes planning. Careful, planned use of routing can
deliver projects that can guide the learner to the information they need.
It can also support the development of projects that work like simple
expert systems as you can implement projects based on decision trees. It is
this kind of project where the pageID values can take on a more logical
value that reflects their position in the project structure, rather than
reflecting the title of the page. It is also this kind of situation in
which several pages may share the same title.

At the moment my priority has to be to finish the work on the current set
of pages that exist in pageTemplates so that they are ready for Xerte 2.18.

Having developed a number of routed page wizards, which have been waiting
in the wings for inclusion in the official Xerte release for almost 2 years
now, I want to get things right first time when they are launched, rather
than rush things at the eleventh hour. Which is why I suggested deferring
their release until after 2.18. However once my work is completed on the
core 2.18 templates I can start looking again at the routed pages. It may
be that there will still be enough time to get them into the 2.18 release,
which I believe is scheduled for a first quarter of 2012 making it only a
few weeks away.

I appreciate you are eager to start using routed pages in XOT now. I am
happy to enhance the routed hotspot page so that it can offer the
additional features that you would like to see. I cannot guarantee that the
routed pages, when they are released, will be backwardly compatible with a
page that you are currently seeking to create as I will be developing the
routed hotspot page based on my original page and enhancing the code to
provide your additional features. None of the original routed page wizards
will work in their current form in XOT, but as indicated in an earlier
posting I now have a solution for this.

If you would like to talk this through via skype I am happy to do so.

Kind regards

Johnathan




On 17 February 2012 17:01, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> 1. what about 'Linking Pages' and move the Navigators > Links page and
> Navigators > New Window page into that menu? To me that makes sense e.g.
> where the page is aimed at clicking a link to go somewhere it goes in the
> Linking pages menu but where it's about loading content into the same page
> it's a navigator. For a brief moment I'm thinking chunkers and linkers but
> not seriously ;-)
>
>
>
> 2. global optional properties sounds good but aren't there too many
> examples where that wouldn't be relevant? e.g. a transition option would be
> good as a global property but that would only really be relevant to image
> pages?
>
>
>
> 3. My perspective is that anyone with the skillset to use the developer
> tool with or without page wizards can work with whatever is provided but
> XOT users and particularly teachers rather than learning technologists need
> the consistency of interface and options we have at the moment. When I
> think about the workflow of adding a routed image hotpot page in XOT
> teachers are more likely to look down the tree of page titles to remind
> themselves of what they want to link to and probably copy and paste that
> title rather than add a title and a page ID to those pages and then back to
> the branching page to add the ID. Perhaps the code should look for ID and
> if not found look for page title too to cover both options? My hunch is
> that user can live with the knowledge that if they change a page title
> they'll need to update the link rather than if they add an ID and then
> change a page title the ID must remain what it was or change both the ID
> and the routing link if you follow what I mean. Although I understand the
> concerns about reliability with page title in XOT it's visible in the tree
> and when viewing the LO and optional page ID wouldn't be and could only be
> seen in each wizard page.
>
>
>
> 4. Thanks will try what you've added at some point.
>
>
>
> 5. Yes agreed merging is the best idea but I want to make use of what we
> already have in XOT sooner rather than later. I wonder if we can agree some
> basics that won't change so that I can add what we have now with a combined
> hot spot image linking page to various XOT installations in the knowledge
> that it won't break with a future release? Happy to perhaps have a skype to
> discuss that?
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 February 2012 09:34
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> Do we want an ’Advanced’ category? This stuff is getting more like an
> elearning developers tools, rather than the simple content creation we tend
> to focus on.
>
>
>
> Do we want nested menus (he says a little nervously) on the insert menu…?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 February 2012 09:27
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> 1.      Yes, probably. ‘Menus’ category? Not sure ‘roued page’ is the
> right termfor end users?
>
> 2.      Yes, as an optional property, why not. We mought to have a
> section in the xwd for ‘global optional properties’, like narration, and
> the others that appear throughout the file.
>
> 3.      Yep.
>
> 4.      Can build that into the engine, and have some methods ‘showBack()
> etc. I need to find some time to do that.
>
> 5.      Merge the two between you, Ron has already said that seems
> sensible.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 15 February 2012 22:27
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> I am delighted to see the interest that is being shown in routed pages.
>
>
>
> In the Page Wizards I developed originally four routed pages that I plan
> to make available as individual page templates. These are
>
> ·        Routed Hotspot Image (very similar to what Ron has demonstrated
> here though currently lacking the optional parameter to change the link
> type to something other than another page in the project, but offering
> support to the author to help identify errors in destination specification)
>
>
>
> ·        Routed Multiple Choice Question - each answer option has its own
> destination page.
>
>
>
> ·        Routed Plain Text - Text page in which hyperlinks can be added
> to other pages in the project
>
>
>
> ·        Routed Tab Navigation - A tab navigator page that can display
> text, images, swfs including flash paper and can also have options on any
> of the tabs that provide a routed link to another page.
>
>
>
> The scenario page is a later addition that post dates the Page Wizards and
> has not yet been made publicly available. Whilst the other pages were based
> on existing pages but added the routing capability, the scenario page is
> like nothing currently available. The scenario page provides a page in
> which a text description of a scenario and an image / swf / flv can be
> displayed. The page also allows the defining of effects and actions in
> relation to the scenario. Props can also be located in the page that have
> actions associated with them. Actions have conditions which control when
> they are available and outcomes which take place when an action is taken.
> Outcomes can change the location of props, increment or decrement one of
> three author definable scores, and also result in being routed to another
> page in the project. A change of score beyond a specified value can trigger
> a "game end" situation either a successful completion of the scenario or an
> unsuccessful completion.
>
>
>
> The scenario page can stand alone, but it is designed with the intention
> that a project can be comprised of several scenario pages that combined
> together to deliver the full experience. A simple example could be a text
> based adventure in which you can move from location to location, collect
> objects and use them to complete tasks. Each scenario page would represent
> a single location. However the potential exists to create complex
> challenging projects with serious learning in mind e.g. a medical diagnosis
> and treatment scenario in which the correct diagnosis and treatment results
> in the patient getting better and inappropriate diagnosis or treatment
> results in the gradual decline of the patient, or even demise should the
> project author so wish!
>
>
>
> The matter of routed pages raises a few issues
>
> 1.     Where do we put the pages - Can I suggest that since these pages
> perform a significantly different function to the current navigator pages
> we should provide them with their own menu option i.e. Routed Pages?
>
>
>
> 2.     Whilst routed pages have been available for about two years as
> Page Wizards they will be new to most Xerte users. I believe it would make
> sense to ensure that they all use the same page property to identify a
> destination page so that they offer a consistent experience to the page
> author. The page name is already doing duty as the title displayed in the
> top left of the project window. As mentioned in an earlier post this raises
> the possibility of links from routed pages being broken by a late decision
> to rename a page, with no easy way of tracing this back to all the pages
> that route to it. With this in mind I have added to every individual page
> template that I have created an optional PageID property. I propose we use
> this.
>
> 3.      Any solution must be designed to operate in both the desktop
> Xerte (Individual Page Template) and XOT (project wide template)
> environments (I have already indicated in an earlier posting how we can
> utilise the PageID property to enable routing in both an individual page
> template and a pageTemplates / XOT environment).
>
> 4.     Navigation - Once you have routed pages the standard xerte
> navigation (Next and Previous) can become inappropriate. Rather than
> providing just a single menu, routed pages have the potential to provide
> branch points at multiple locations in a project. This provides the
> capability to provide a learning sequence and then test understanding and
> route the learner according to their response. They can allow the learner
> to take risks and learn the consequences of their decisions. Based on
> earlier work with routed pages I suggest the following navigation would be
> useful. A) a back button that worked like a browser back button i.e. a lifo
> queue. B) a next button that can be turned on or off so that it can be
> displayed during none branching sections of the project and hidden when on
> a routed page. The content menu would also be less appropriate, unless you
> wanted to allow the learner to exit the routing that was built into the
> project, so again you might want to turn that off. I probably need to
> review my current Page Wizards to refresh my memory as to how they handled
> this as you would probably want to have settings in a routed page that
> disabled navigation elements on opening the page and re-enabled them on
> page exit.
>
> 5.     We now have the luxury of two candidate routed Hotspot pages. Both
> Ron's page and mine do the same thing, but under the hood they do it in
> different ways. Each offer some features the other does not. I can't see
> much point in implementing two pages that do pretty much the same thing.
> What makes sense to me is to recognise that both Ron's page and my Page
> Wizard will need some reworking in order to work both as an individual page
> template and as part of a XOT project. If Ron is happy for me to do this I
> would like to have a go at implementing an individual page template that
> uses the pageID navigation approach and combines the features of his Page
> Template and my Page Wizard. This would ensure a consistency of approach
> between all the Routed pages whilst including  as much (hopefully all) of
> the functionality unique to Ron's page and the functionality unique to my
> page.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 February 2012 16:36, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> Glad you see the point - wasn't sure that would be clear without a proper
> example but yes I'm excited by lot's of possibilities with this.
>
>
>
> Yes I figured it was better placed under Navigators than Interactivity but
> happy to go along with what you think.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure what this has in common with Jonathans scenario page but from
> what I saw on the first of those two dev days this possibly meets a
> different need/user. My focus here really is the creation of a visual page
> where the visuals are created externally but the links are easily added via
> the interface. I'm pretty sure the staff I work with will like it and put
> it to good use.
>
>
>
> I'll have a look at the alternative controls options. I agree what I did
> there seems wrong but I searched the mailing list archive and found that as
> a solution. Will have a look at the other options and test and report back.
>
>
>
> So as you'll have seen the hotspot options at the moment include the
> following:
>
> internal link via page title
>
> internal link via dropdown e.g. next, prev, first, last
>
> external link
>
> sound
>
>
>
> The other thing I wondered about was having a pop up option where the text
> added to that nested page is displayed in a popup when clicked and the
> popup can be dragged around or closed. Is there anything existing for that?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>
> *Sent:* 15 February 2012 15:57
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> I like what you’re driving at here, seems to work well. Not sure about
> hiding / showing the interface buttons (I prefer to grey out or dull
> inactive buttons rather than make them appear / disappear, and that would
> be consistent with other xerte design stuff).
>
>
>
> Is this a ‘Navigators’ page type?
>
>
>
> What does it have in common with Jonathan’s ‘scenario’ page?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 17:05
>
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> It can be an ugly application too - especially late at night! ;-)
>
>
>
> With Jonathan's talk of branching on a regular basis and inspired by the
> recent rapid e-learning blog post about comic strip type interactions e.g.
> http://www.worldwarfighter.com/hajikamal/activity/ and
> http://www.brokencoworker.com/
>
>
>
> I've been working on an additional page template page that I've had in
> mind for years ;-) that for now I've called branching image. It's basically
> a revision of the image hotspots page which links to internal or external
> destinations rather than displaying hot spot panels. Here a quick test -
> I'm hoping you'll be happy to include this in the official page template?
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1388941/branching_image_example.zip
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 16:35
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> >Xerte is such a beautiful application
>
>
>
> You made me smile there. It’s all good stuff, and I’m really grateful for
> all the work you’re putting in. Yes, these are all good questions for the
> future. It’s a bit like the old Authorware community: all these people who
> really got what AW was all about, how fast and easy it was to build complex
> stuff (to a point); it’s the same with the people who get Xerte (I like to
> think), unfortunately, they remain relatively few in number (but not a bad
> number for a marketing budget of zero). If you think back though, there
> was  time when Macs were only being used by a very small number of zealous
> maniacs…
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 16:17
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> I can understand why the focus may be on how the data that currently
> exists in XOT projects can be output as HTML5.
>
>
>
> XOT offers a tremendous facility in which to develop learning resources
> that can be shared with other institutions, but not a friendly environment
> for the creation of new page designs.
>
>
>
> I believe that people will find in Xerte 2.18 (with the integration of
> individual page templates and availability in several languages) a really
> friendly and useful platform in which new page designs for XOT can be
> created. This opens up the potential for the Xerte / XOT project to benefit
> from the expertise of people all over the world who may develop and share
> their page designs.
>
>
>
> I hope that in all the thoughts about the future of XOT some weight will
> be given to how the wider XOT community might be facilitated to create new
> page designs as XOT moves over to HTML5. Xerte is such a beautiful
> application perhaps it might inform the solution to this question.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2012 14:44, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, carry on, you’re much closer to this than I am at the minute.
>
>
>
> We’re currently in a wait and see about some funding for HTML5 output from
> toolkits: in the long run that’s likely to be where my effort goes, and
> it’s something we’re going to do anyway – the funding will just help us
> prioritise the work.
>
>
>
> I don’t know what the answer is, but we do need to think about how those
> two tools (Toolkits, primarily outputting HTML5) and Xerte (making .xml for
> an AS2 runtime) complement each other. The wizard is possibly the only
> thing in common in the end: our first attempts will be to take the existing
> data from toolkits and run it into HTML(5) somehow. I can see the two
> things existing in parallel for a good while yet (think, maybe 3 – 5 years)
> but ultimately I can see toolkits de-coupling from Xerte. There is a lot of
> traction in toolkits, and a lot more potential if it didn’t rely on Flash.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 14:36
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> I don't know if you have had a chance to work with the version of the
> Xerte interface that includes Tom's modifications for individual page
> templates, but it has really enhanced desktop Xerte as a development
> environment.
>
>
>
> I can pick a page from a menu and see hints and thumbnails, just as you do
> in XOT or a page templates project. When I select a page from the menu it
> creates a folder for the page, copies the page's xwd to the folder and
> automatically generates the xml for the page based on the xwd, saving it in
> the page's folder. In addition it adds a new page to the project tree using
> the page's rlm file.
>
>
>
> This then leaves me in the desktop xerte environment with each page having
> its own xwd and xml contained in its own folder. I can tinker with the
> page's icon structure or just consume the page as originally specified,
> whilst populating the page's data using the xwd form.
>
>
>
> I can edit the page's xwd in FlashDevelop to add extra features and update
> the page's structure to consume them. I have full access to all the
> project's pages and every page's icons.
>
>
>
> In desktop Xerte using individual page templates, once a page has been
> created any change to Xerte's copy of the xwd file or rlm file does not
> affect the page in the project, unlike in XOT where template.xwd and the
> set of  rlm files are accessed when the project runs, thus resulting in any
> changes to these files affecting all projects.
>
>
>
> It is a great environment in which to develop new pages from existing ones.
>
>
>
> Can you see any problem with the approach I am intending to take with
> respect to the routed paging? Are you happy for me to continue with this
> proposed solution to the issue?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2012 14:09, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> OK, maybe we’re just in slightly different worlds, me toolkits, you xerte.
> You paste in models through the editor? (I can’t remember) and then
> essentially don’t care about that model ever again: it’s just there waiting
> for some xml payload to drive it?
>
>
>
> Do you actually add the child icons (i.e. essentially the same thing as
> pasting in the model manually at design time? Or do you create a reference
> to an external model file a la toolkits?
>
>
>
> I can see it is tricky to set the icon property at design time.
>
>
>
> There must be a way to set the name property at runtime, but maybe not so
> easy of you’ve pasted the whole set of icons into the main piece – which is
> what I think you do..?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 14:05
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> There may be something wrong in my understanding of how things are working
> here but my reasons for not going down this route were
>
>
>
> 1) The script you quote is from templates.rlt and does not exist in an
> individual page template project - though something similar could perhaps
> be added.
>
> 2) In an individual page template project there is no project wide
> external xml file, rather each separate page has its own external xml file.
>
> 3) I am seeking to implement a solution that works for both pageTemplates
> and individual page template projects.
>
> 4) Even if this can be made to work for individual page template files I
> am still wary of using the name property (title field in the xwd form) as
> the unique identifier as I think it is already being used to meet a
> different purpose that could compromise it as a unique id. A project that
> used routing could easily be compromised by a late decision to change the
> title of a page. Which would affect every page that had been set up to
> route to it. With a separate pageID used only as the identifier for routing
> purposes this issue is avoided.
>
>
>
> Since routed pages are not yet a feature of Xerte it makes sense to get a
> solution that is robust. Have I missed something in my approach? Is there
> anything in the approach that I am proposing that would be detrimental to
> the project?
>
>
>
> I have performed some limited tests with this approach using my scenario
> page in both  pageTemplates and individual page template projects and thus
> far it has worked reliably.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2012 13:32, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Part of the problem has been the lack of a suitable identifier for each
> page that could be set within an xwd form
>
>
>
> Why can’t you set attributes on the icon in the makePages script, in these
> bits of code?
>
>
>
> if (modName == 'xerteModel'){
>
>   newXML = new XML('<PG model="' +
> extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.modelFile + '"/>');
>
>   //is there an initObject...?
>
>   if (extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.initObject != undefined){
>
>     newXML.firstChild.attributes.initObject =
> extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.initObject;
>
>   }
>
> } else {
>
>  newXML = new XML('<PG model="templatePath + \'models/' + modName +
> '.rlm\'"/>');
>
> }
>
> newChild = newXML.firstChild;
>
> newChild.attributes.title = extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].
> attributes.name;
>
> newChild.attributes.linkID =
> extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID;
>
>
>
> if (extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID == _level0.linkID &&
> extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.linkID != undefined){
>
>   linkIndex = i;
>
> }
>
> ifc.appendChild(newChild);
>
>
>
> newChild is the xml that is added to the interface. The engine then loads
> up the modesl identified in each page attached, but does not replace the
> page icons you create here.
>
>
>
> You won’t see the changes at design time(i.e. populate the name property
> in the xerte editor), but they can be set at runtime, and thus be used for
> navigation.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 12:36
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> I have considered how to implement the ability to route pages for some
> time now. Part of the problem has been the lack of a suitable identifier
> for each page that could be set within an xwd form. In page wizards I used
> the "name" field of the page icon, but this is not definable from an xwd
> form.
>
>
>
> In pageTemplates projects the xwd defined name value is used as the page
> title and there is no way to set the page Icon name property. The page
> title is a bad candidate as a unique identifier as its main function is to
> be a a page title making it potentially lengthy, potentially liable to
> change, possibly even unique and probably more prone to error in typing
> when referring to it as a page destination.
>
>
>
> As part of the move to individual page templates I am including in every
> xwd file an optional property pageID the purpose of which is to act solely
> as an identifier to enable other pages to locate it in the project.
>
>
>
> I have a number of page wizards that I will be converting to individual
> page templates that offer routing i.e. the ability to specify a target page
> which the user will be taken to on completing an action e.g. making a
> selection from a multiple choice question, clicking on a link in some text
> etc. These will use the new pageID property.
>
>
>
> This is achieved by using the following code.
>
>
>
> In the rlm file's getPageID script the following opening is used for any
> page that offers routing
>
>
>
> if (extXML == undefined){ // Page Wizard
>
>     pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();
>
>     pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
>
>
>
>     // routed pages only
>
>     pageID_array = new Array();
>
>     for (i = 0; i < rootIcon.pages.length; i++){
>
>
> pageID_array.push(rootIcon.pages[i].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID);
>
>     }
>
>
>
> } else { // Toolkits
>
>    myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() -
> pgOffset]);
>
>    pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();
>
>    rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
>
>
>
>    // routed pages only
>
>    pageID_array = new Array();
>
>    for (i = 0; i < extXML.firstChild.childNodes.length; i++){
>
>      pageID_array.push(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[i].attributes.pageID);
>
>    }
>
> }
>
>
>
> This makes available to the routed page an array of every page in the
> project with a value for pageID where it has been defined.
>
>
>
> Navigation to a page can then be handled in a manner such as
>
>
>
> // navigate to destination page
>
> for (i = 0; i < pageID_array.length; i++){
>
>    if (pageID_array[i] == destPageName){
>
>      pageFound = "true";
>
>      destinationIndex = i;
>
>      rootIcon.gotoPage(destinationIndex);
>
>    break;
>
>   } else {
>
>     pageFound = "false";
>
>   }
>
> }
>
>
>
> This will open up the potential to create a variety of "routed" pages
> which all use a standard method of page identification.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2012 09:50, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Ah, the other gotcha is that those asfunc calls need the full path to the
> object.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 08:24
>
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> :-)
>
> sleep worked!
>
> Got it working with _level0.engine.navToPage(pagetitletogoto);
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 00:43
>
> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> So much for in vino veritas.
> ------------------------------
>
> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
>
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:31:28 +0000
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
> Thanks for the suggestion Dave
>
> but I've pretty much tried that but it's not working e.g. if I
> debug(myPageIndex); it's coming up undefined.
>
> Time to shut down and have another look in the morning.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
>
> *Sent:* 14 February 2012 00:22
>
> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: navigating to page name
>
>
>
> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/xerte/2010-April/004972.html
>
> ??
>
>
>
> I've had a couple pints, so I may be missing the point.
>
> :-)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
>
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:10:31 +0000
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] navigating to page name
>
> Hi
>
> I think I'm missing something silly here :-(
>
> In a script icon in a page templates project I want to dynamically pass a
> page title to navigate to that page.
>
>
>
> I know <a href="asfunction:_level0.engine.navToPage,yourpagetitle">Click
> here or some other wording</a> works in xot as a hyperlink but haven't
> managed to call the same function in a script icon?
>
>
>
> Or is there another/easier way of doing this e.g. navigating to a page
> title in a page templates project?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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