[Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

Tue Apr 24 11:03:41 BST 2012

You might find the following link interesting :-)

http://html5video.org/wiki/HTML5_Player_Comparison

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 24 April 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:

> > Could this compromise the acceptability of Xenith to these institutions.
>
>
>
> No, it mustn’t do that. We can ship a free version, but I don’t want to
> get into handling money. If we pay for a license to redistribute a
> component in toolkits, we need to recoup it from users: I don’t want to get
> into that. I’d rather include open solutions, but if the best solution
> isn’t open, then a freemium closed solution that we can redistribute would
> be OK.
>
>
>
> I think he goal is to lean on the native HTML5 tags wherever we can, so
> use <video> if possible and fall back in browsers / situations where we
> have to. <video> won’t play .flv, so in the case of flv being encountered
> we need to fallback to a flash solution anyway.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 24 April 2012 10:15
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report
>
>
>
> I have just been looking at the Longtail video site to try to find the
> licence for the video player.
>
>
>
> I haven't been able to find the licence yet but it is clear that as well
> as the free version they have the Pro and Enterprise versions.
>
>
>
> The Pro version includes "use on commercial web sites" so it could be that
> if the free version was distributed as part of Xenith that any University
> or College using Xenith on their web site would then be in breach of the
> licence. Could this compromise the acceptability of Xenith to these
> institutions.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 24 April 2012 10:01, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Or, as Pat says, distribute the badged one, and let people upgrade it.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 24 April 2012 10:00
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report
>
>
>
>  "Presumably we can't redistribute a non-badged version? Maybe if we pay
> enough,"
>
>
>
> I am pretty sure that Moodle used to include an early version of the JWFLV
> player from Longtail Video in their release, so it may well be possible to
> cut some kind of deal with them.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 24 April 2012 09:54, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > which you need to pay for to have an unbadged version
>
> Presumably we can't redistribute a non-badged version? Maybe if we pay
> enough,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 24 April 2012 09:49
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report
>
> Firefox can play mp3 - it's mp4 where the confusion occurs - and
> google have bought (i think) or are making an Open Source mp4 codec
> (which is why firefox can't do it).
>
> http://podcasts.ox.ac.uk/chaucer-audio is an MP3 playing in HTML 5 in
> firefox.
>
> There is a lot of JS around which goes (in psuedo)
>
> create me a video node
> if no
> use something else
>
> long tail does it (and is perhaps a better option as it has plugins),
> then there is videoJS, or mediaelements (we use mediaelements on
> podcasts, but are moving to longtail - which you need to pay for to
> have an unbadged version)
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> > http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Fay pointed out that Firefox won't play mp3 files, I was
> > surprised. So in the Xenith project we will have to consider how to
> manage
> > html5 audio because there is not a common format that works in all
> browsers.
> > WTF.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp
> > Johnathan
> > Sent: 23 April 2012 19:39
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 25th - 26th April (was RE: Translation support
> of
> > Wizard)
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know if you have come across this site, but they keep updating
> their
> > assessment of html5 across the various platforms.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you haven't seen their report before you may find it useful.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.longtailvideo.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Johnathan
> >
> > On 23 April 2012 11:38, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Cheers, yes, I'll let you all know. We need to get the prototype so you
> guys
> > can all hit it and comment as we go along: I'll get Fay to do that on
> > Friday,
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp
> > Johnathan
> > Sent: 23 April 2012 11:25
> >
> >
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> >
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 25th - 26th April (was RE: Translation support
> of
> > Wizard)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Julian,
> >
> >
> >
> > Just wanted to wish you well with the Xenith project meetings later this
> > week. Thanks for the invite, unfortunately I have other commitments.
> >
> >
> >
> > I shall follow the developments with interest, particularly those
> relating
> > to any facilities for the generation of new page types.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Johnathan
> >
> > On 14 April 2012 23:38, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'll get back to you, thanks. I'm out at a conference Mon - Weds this
> week,
> > then I have a manic week, but then I will get some time to work on ths
> > stuff, and get it released. Thanks for all your work the last few weeks.
> >
> > We are meetng wth some developers from EDINA here in Nottingham 25th and
> > 26th April, to discuss approaches to the Xenith Project. A lot of that
> > discussion is relevant here - there is a very open agenda right now.
> Anyone,
> > if you fancy coming along, let me know.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> > [reijnders at tor.nl]
> > Sent: 14 April 2012 07:45
> > To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translation support of Wizard
> >
> > Julian,
> >
> > (or any other person that is able to work on the flash code)
> >
> > I added translation support to the wizard, i.e. I am trying to
> > accomplish that.  That will be the final step for this release.
> >
> > -  We will have the code for a complete translated version of XOT
> > - Only the Editor will remain in English, I think that is acceptable for
> > now.. I don't have the time to add translation for that at this point.
> >
> > I've got two issues.
> >
> > 1. I somehow have to embed a language code t=in a project, to be able to
> > set the language correctly when reopening a project. What is the best
> > way to do that?
> > 2. I can't get the labels of the two check boxes (Advanced and Language)
> > changed into a new language string. Could you please have a look at
> > attached .fla what I am doing wrong, cq. missed?
> >
> > What did I change?
> >
> > 1. Added some attributes to the language-config.xml file
> > 2. Added a language chooser in the Pages menu of the editor
> > 3. Pass the 'language code' to the wizard as a third option
> > 4. Created  English and Dutch wizard language files
> > 5. Used these in attached .fla file
> >
> > Everything is committed, except attached .fla, because I want to figure
> > out what I did wrong with the check boxes, and the translation is not
> > complete yet.
> >
> > NOTE:
> > 1. The wizard already had a version of XML.prototype.toObject, but that
> > version expects unique XML nodes throughout the file (so no set of
> > <item> for a combo box etc). I wanted to keep the look of the xml
> > relatively close to what you did for the engine, but I didn't want to go
> > over the wizard to change all the code if I changed the toObject that
> > interprets the xwd. So I added a second version
> XML.prototype.toArrObject.
> > 2. Most of the work is done in a function called setTranslation (line
> > 2533) that is called after the language file has successfully been read
> > in (in function  init)
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > --
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