[Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files

Fri Apr 20 13:21:34 BST 2012

Thanks for the explanation Tom sounds like a good plan to fill basic.xwd
with the preferred top menu and have any differences simply appended.

On the test server we are using I might quickly edit data.xwd to reflect
that category order I listed below but I guess basix.xwd needs to be updated
wherever it exists in the trunks?

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 20 April 2012 13:10
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus
any other shared files

First an explanation:

The template.xwd is generated from basic.xwd and parsing all the individual
pages to add the rest. At the moment basic.xwd has an empty top menu, and
contains basically the setup scripts for a pageTemplate project. The top
menu is automatically generated when the individual pages are read and
maintains an alphabetical order.

What we could do is the following:

Fill basic.xwd with the top menu that we know/expect to find in the
individual pages and keep the order as they are in basic.xwd. If a page is
encountered with a top menu different from the ones found in basic.xwd, it
is simply appended (not resorted in any way). This would be easy to
implement, it doesn't require any extra info in the xwd's and gives us
maximum control.

The (minor) drawback is, that if we move pages around and one of the
topmenus in basic.xwd happens to be empty, strange things can happen, but
those are easily fixed. 

Tom

Op 20-4-2012 13:22, Ron Mitchell schreef: 

In the Google doc Julian commented as follows: 

JT - would like the top level sections to be based on some order of
popularity, i.e. text / media ones first, as they were. Charts does not make
sense at the top. Second level menus could be alphabetical. We could analyse
Nottingham's LOs to see what is used most? I think it is text / media /
navigators before anything else.

My preference would be the following:

Text

Media

Navigators

Connectors

Charts

Interactivity

Games

Misc

and have the page types within each category alphabetical A - Z

That would maintain continuity/familiarity for existing users and although
the individual page type order within at least some of the categories would
have changed I think that's let important and makes more sense to be
alphabetical.

Is that possible without major code changes?

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 20 April 2012 11:42
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus
any other shared files

The order has changed depending on what template.xwd you use. The one that
is generated from the pages (individual xwd's) maintains an 
alphabetical order, that used to be a different order typed in in the
template xwd.

Of course we can change that, but I would need more information in the
individual xwd's to indicate the order or placement.

Tom

Op 20-4-2012 12:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: 

That's a good point Jonathan but I guess the answer isn't straightforward
:-(

e.g. I notice Fay has just updated
/trunk/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/data.xwd but I'm not sure
what changes that contains or whether that brings it in sync or out of sync
with the Xerte version or rather versions.

As we've listed and discussed the custom stylesheet option has gone missing
in the XOT 1.8 beta to which I guess means it's gone missing from the xwd
but I'm not sure how or why. Likewise there's the discussion about the order
in which the categories and page types appear in the Nottingham template and
I guess this applies to Xerte as well as XOT although I haven't checked if
this has changed in Xerte too?

I guess Julian is king and needs to guide us? ;-)

Cheers

Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp
Johnathan
Sent: 20 April 2012 10:47
To: Xerte Developers Discussion List
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any
other shared files

Currently we have separate svns for Xerte and Toolkits.

Whilst developing the new model and xwd files I set up a pageWizards folder
in the root of the Xerte svn so that they could be developed parallel to the
existing models which were still in use.

Now we have come to a point where we are testing a beta release of Toolkits
that is based on these new models and xwds. Also a beta release of desktop
Xerte is imminent, which will also be using the same model and xwd files.
They will also share many other files e.g. thumbs, the "common" folder and I
also (?) the core files such as editor.swf, XMLengine.swf etc.

Would it not make sense for all the shared files to be kept in one location
so that we avoid a situation in which the various copies of the files that
currently exist get out of synch with each other? If the Toolkits release is
using earlier versions of swf files that have been modified in the desktop
Xerte then this is going to create anomalies during testing, since the
models were developed in the desktop environment.

Where then are we to keep them?

The testing of the XOT beta is raising the need to make some changes to xwd
files and possibly also some model files. I don't want to start making these
changes whilst there is ambiguity as to which set of files to work from.

Personally I have no preference as to where they are kept. I think Tom may
have a view on this.

Currently there are copies of the new xwd and rlm files in

xerte svn / runtime/pages /

xerte svn / pageWizards/models (rlms) and pageWizards/en-gb (xwds)

XOT svn/ modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models (rlms) and wizards
(xwds)

Kind regards

Johnathan

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