[Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Apr 20 13:09:41 BST 2012 

First an explanation:

The template.xwd is generated from basic.xwd and parsing all the 
individual pages to add the rest. At the moment basic.xwd has an empty 
top menu, and contains basically the setup scripts for a pageTemplate 
project. The top menu is automatically generated when the individual 
pages are read and maintains an alphabetical order.

What we could do is the following:

Fill basic.xwd with the top menu that we know/expect to find in the 
individual pages and keep the order as they are in basic.xwd. If a page 
is encountered with a top menu different from the ones found in 
basic.xwd, it is simply appended (not resorted in any way). This would 
be easy to implement, it doesn't require any extra info in the xwd's and 
gives us maximum control.

The (minor) drawback is, that if we move pages around and one of the 
topmenus in basic.xwd happens to be empty, strange things can happen, 
but those are easily fixed.

Tom





Op 20-4-2012 13:22, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> In the Google doc Julian commented as follows:
>
> JT - would like the top level sections to be based on some order of 
> popularity, i.e. text / media ones first, as they were. Charts does 
> not make sense at the top. Second level menus could be alphabetical. 
> We could analyse Nottingham's LOs to see what is used most? I think it 
> is text / media / navigators before anything else.
>
> My preference would be the following:
>
> Text
>
> Media
>
> Navigators
>
> Connectors
>
> Charts
>
> Interactivity
>
> Games
>
> Misc
>
> and have the page types within each category alphabetical A - Z
>
> That would maintain continuity/familiarity for existing users and 
> although the individual page type order within at least some of the 
> categories would have changed I think that's let important and makes 
> more sense to be alphabetical.
>
> Is that possible without major code changes?
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom 
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 20 April 2012 11:42
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) 
> plus any other shared files
>
> The order has changed depending on what template.xwd you use. The one 
> that is generated from the pages (individual xwd's) maintains an
> alphabetical order, that used to be a different order typed in in the 
> template xwd.
>
> Of course we can change that, but I would need more information in the 
> individual xwd's to indicate the order or placement.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Op 20-4-2012 12:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> That's a good point Jonathan but I guess the answer isn't 
> straightforward :-(
>
> e.g. I notice Fay has just updated 
> /trunk/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/data.xwd but I'm not 
> sure what changes that contains or whether that brings it in sync or 
> out of sync with the Xerte version or rather versions.
>
> As we've listed and discussed the custom stylesheet option has gone 
> missing in the XOT 1.8 beta to which I guess means it's gone missing 
> from the xwd but I'm not sure how or why. Likewise there's the 
> discussion about the order in which the categories and page types 
> appear in the Nottingham template and I guess this applies to Xerte as 
> well as XOT although I haven't checked if this has changed in Xerte too?
>
> I guess Julian is king and needs to guide us? ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp 
> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 20 April 2012 10:47
> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Location of xwd and rlm files in the svn(s) 
> plus any other shared files
>
> Currently we have separate svns for Xerte and Toolkits.
>
> Whilst developing the new model and xwd files I set up a pageWizards 
> folder in the root of the Xerte svn so that they could be developed 
> parallel to the existing models which were still in use.
>
> Now we have come to a point where we are testing a beta release of 
> Toolkits that is based on these new models and xwds. Also a beta 
> release of desktop Xerte is imminent, which will also be using the 
> same model and xwd files. They will also share many other files e.g. 
> thumbs, the "common" folder and I also (?) the core files such as 
> editor.swf, XMLengine.swf etc.
>
> Would it not make sense for all the shared files to be kept in one 
> location so that we avoid a situation in which the various copies of 
> the files that currently exist get out of synch with each other? If 
> the Toolkits release is using earlier versions of swf files that have 
> been modified in the desktop Xerte then this is going to create 
> anomalies during testing, since the models were developed in the 
> desktop environment.
>
> Where then are we to keep them?
>
> The testing of the XOT beta is raising the need to make some changes 
> to xwd files and possibly also some model files. I don't want to start 
> making these changes whilst there is ambiguity as to which set of 
> files to work from.
>
> Personally I have no preference as to where they are kept. I think Tom 
> may have a view on this.
>
> Currently there are copies of the new xwd and rlm files in
>
> xerte svn / runtime/pages /
>
> xerte svn / pageWizards/models (rlms) and pageWizards/en-gb (xwds)
>
> XOT svn/ modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models (rlms) and 
> wizards (xwds)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
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