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First an explanation:<br>
<br>
The template.xwd is generated from basic.xwd and parsing all the
individual pages to add the rest. At the moment basic.xwd has an
empty top menu, and contains basically the setup scripts for a
pageTemplate project. The top menu is automatically generated when
the individual pages are read and maintains an alphabetical order.<br>
<br>
What we could do is the following:<br>
<br>
Fill basic.xwd with the top menu that we know/expect to find in the
individual pages and keep the order as they are in basic.xwd. If a
page is encountered with a top menu different from the ones found in
basic.xwd, it is simply appended (not resorted in any way). This
would be easy to implement, it doesn't require any extra info in the
xwd's and gives us maximum control.<br>
<br>
The (minor) drawback is, that if we move pages around and one of the
topmenus in basic.xwd happens to be empty, strange things can
happen, but those are easily fixed. <br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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Op 20-4-2012 13:22, Ron Mitchell schreef:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
the Google doc Julian commented as follows: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">JT
- would like the top level sections to be based on some
order of popularity, i.e. text / media ones first, as they
were. Charts does not make sense at the top. Second level
menus could be alphabetical. We could analyse Nottingham's
LOs to see what is used most? I think it is text / media /
navigators before anything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
preference would be the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Text<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Media<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Navigators<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Charts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Interactivity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Games<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Misc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and
have the page types within each category alphabetical A - Z<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That
would maintain continuity/familiarity for existing users and
although the individual page type order within at least some
of the categories would have changed I think that's let
important and makes more sense to be alphabetical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is
that possible without major code changes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 11:42<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Re: Location of xwd and rlm
files in the svn(s) plus any other shared files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The order has changed depending on what
template.xwd you use. The one that is generated from the pages
(individual xwd's) maintains an <br>
alphabetical order, that used to be a different order typed in
in the template xwd.<br>
<br>
Of course we can change that, but I would need more
information in the individual xwd's to indicate the order or
placement.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 20-4-2012 12:13, Ron Mitchell schreef: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That's
a good point Jonathan but I guess the answer isn't
straightforward :-(</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">e.g.
I notice Fay has just updated
/trunk/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/data.xwd
but I'm not sure what changes that contains or whether that
brings it in sync or out of sync with the Xerte version or
rather versions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
we've listed and discussed the custom stylesheet option has
gone missing in the XOT 1.8 beta to which I guess means it's
gone missing from the xwd but I'm not sure how or why.
Likewise there's the discussion about the order in which the
categories and page types appear in the Nottingham template
and I guess this applies to Xerte as well as XOT although I
haven't checked if this has changed in Xerte too?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
guess Julian is king and needs to guide us? ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 10:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte Developers Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte-dev] Location of xwd and rlm files
in the svn(s) plus any other shared files</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Currently we have separate svns for Xerte
and Toolkits.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whilst developing the new model and xwd
files I set up a pageWizards folder in the root of the Xerte
svn so that they could be developed parallel to the existing
models which were still in use.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now we have come to a point where we are
testing a beta release of Toolkits that is based on these
new models and xwds. Also a beta release of desktop Xerte is
imminent, which will also be using the same model and xwd
files. They will also share many other files e.g. thumbs,
the "common" folder and I also (?) the core files such as
editor.swf, XMLengine.swf etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Would it not make sense for all the
shared files to be kept in one location so that we avoid a
situation in which the various copies of the files that
currently exist get out of synch with each other? If the
Toolkits release is using earlier versions of swf files that
have been modified in the desktop Xerte then this is going
to create anomalies during testing, since the models were
developed in the desktop environment.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Where then are we to keep them?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The testing of the XOT beta is raising
the need to make some changes to xwd files and possibly also
some model files. I don't want to start making these changes
whilst there is ambiguity as to which set of files to work
from.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Personally I have no preference as to
where they are kept. I think Tom may have a view on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Currently there are copies of the new xwd
and rlm files in<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">xerte svn / runtime/pages /<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">xerte svn / pageWizards/models (rlms) and
pageWizards/en-gb (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">XOT svn/
modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models (rlms) and
wizards (xwds)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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