[Syrphidae] Bradescu 1993

Sat Feb 29 12:17:50 GMT 2020

Hi Wouter,
Here you are!
Greetings,
Gerard

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   1. Re: Chalcosyrphus fulviventris (Bigot) (w.v.steenis at casema.nl)

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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Chalcosyrphus fulviventris (Bigot)
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Hi all,

Could any of you share a pdf of:

Br?descu, V. 1993. Orthonevra shusteri sp.n. et deux esp?ces signal?es pour la premi?re fois dans la faune de Roumanie (Diptera : Syrphidae). Trav. Mus. Hist. nat. ? Grigore Antipa ? 22, 7-10.

Thanks a lot !

Wouter

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Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] Re: Chalcosyrphus fulviventris (Bigot)

Hi Bastian,

You can see observation of this Chalcosyrphus on Diptera.info.

https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=7 <https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=7&thread_id=63044> &thread_id=63044

I known one old specimen from Corsica in Polish colection.

Regards,

Lukasz

pon., 3 lut 2020, 00:02 u?ytkownik Bastiaan <bwakkie at syrphidae.com <mailto:bwakkie at syrphidae.com> > napisa?:

Hi Wouter,

In Systema Dipterorum it is stated as valid, see image.

regards,
Bastiaan

On Sun, 2020-02-02 at 19:54 +0100, w.v.steenis at casema.nl <mailto:w.v.steenis at casema.nl>  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Aat Barendregt collected some specimens of Chalcosyrphus in Corsica (France). It is a
> Chalcosyrphus with totally black abdomen. In Seguy (1961) you easily run to Chalcosyrphus
> fulviventris, a presumed endemic of Corsica. In Peck (1988) this is a synonym of Chalcosyrphus
> piger. We cannot find any publication that explains this synonymy. Hippa (1978) does not refer to
> fulviventris at all.
>
> If you have an idea where to look for the formal synonymy, please let us know.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> Wouter van Steenis
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>
>
> Van: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>  <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> > Namens
> Jeroen van Steenis
> Verzonden: donderdag 30 januari 2020 18:43
> Aan: Gerard Pennards <gerard_pennards at hotmail.com <mailto:gerard_pennards at hotmail.com> >
> CC: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] Re: Identification query
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>
> Dear Gerard
>
>
>
> They must be Brachypalpus and closest is chrysites or zugmayeriae. The metafemur is too slender
> for chrysites and the pile is too orange. I do not know the other one.
>
> I am sure it is not the female of the undescribed species from Serbia. would be nice to get hold
> of males too.
>
>
>
> There is a picture of the male of zugmayeriae in Mutin & Ichige 2018.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jeroen
>
>
>
>
>
> Op do 30 jan. 2020 om 14:28 schreef Gerard Pennards <gerard_pennards at hotmail.com <mailto:gerard_pennards at hotmail.com>  <mailto:
> gerard_pennards at hotmail.com <mailto:gerard_pennards at hotmail.com> > >:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have a identification query for you and I hope someone can help me.
>
> I have added two links, one from a biodiversity website in Georgia, and the other from a Russian
> Macro photos website.
>
> Both pictures come from the Northern Caucasus, one picture from Northern Georgia which is called
> Cheilosia illustrate but it's clearly not. See link:
> http://biodiversity-georgia.net/index.php?taxon=Cheilosia%20illustrata
>
> The other one is from a Russian photo website and was not identified. It is the same species as
> the Georgian one I think, but it's a strange species. See link:
> http://macroclub.ru/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/238361/cat/512
>
> My idea is that it should be the female of Brachypalpus chrysites, but it doesn't look like the
> normal yellow haired form. Also there seem to be some differences in pilosity, and other features.
>
> Has someone encountered these before? I have asked some people who had been in Georgia, but a
> species like this was not seen.
>
> Thanks in advance, greetings,
>
> Gerard
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