[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: The meme "Learning to read, Reading to learn"

[Donna Alvermann]

Freddy, I do not know an earlier origin of the meme, but I've co-authored a
chapter in a book edited by Dorothy Strickland and Michael Kamil in which I
point to an assumption that could be used as an argument against teaching
children in the primary grades to read informational texts. "Learning to
read, reading to learn" if taken as an indicator of when informational text
should be introduced, suggests that until children have mastered certain
basic skills, the content of *what* they are learning to read is of lesser
concern. Perhaps this possibility is one that the people to whom you'll be
speaking haven't fully considered?

Just a thought...
Donna

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On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Shanahan, Timothy E <shanahan at uic.edu>
wrote:

> The older that we’ve been able to find of that combination was in the 1917
> Education-Journal, volume 18, pp. 443-444 (slightly older than the oldest
> cite we have come up with for “every teacher a teacher of reading”.
> However, in both cases, quotes were used around the terms suggesting that
> they had an even older usage (but older usages we haven’t been able to
> find.
>
> In this case, teachers are asked to explain the difference between reading
> "learning to read" and "reading to learn” from the teacher’s concern… and
> the answer explains that many children unable to read in their native
> language fail subjects like geography simply due to their inability to
> read.
>
> There must be older uses of these terms, but whether that was just how
> these issues were discussed in the old normal schools and thus weren’t
> recorded or there is an older cite out there to be found.
>
> tim
>
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> From: <reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of
> Freddy Hiebert <hiebert at textproject.org>
> Reply-To: Freddy Hiebert <hiebert at textproject.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 1:54 PM
> To: "reading-hall-of-fame at nottingham.ac.uk" <reading-hall-of-fame@
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> Subject: [Reading-hall-of-fame] The meme "Learning to read, Reading to
> learn"
>
> Reading Hall of Famers,
>
> I’m talking to a group of policy folks this week—many from states where
> there is legislation (or legislation pending) on retention tied to
> third-grade reading benchmarks.  Often, as part of these mandates, the meme
> “Learning to read, Reading to learn” comes up.
>
> Here’s the Google n-gram diagram for the appearance of the two phrases.
> Unfortunately, I haven’t mastered the art of figuring out how to zero in on
> books where the two phrases are used together.
>
>
> The earliest article that I’ve found is from 1961 (by a librarian writing
> in a Canadian veterinary journal) but the title was apparently simply used
> to catch readers’ attention (the assumptions that we usually associate with
> the phrase aren’t described).
>
> In a 2012 chapter Marcia Invernizzi and Latisha Hayes tie the phrase to
> Chall’s (1983) Stages of Reading Development.  But I know that I heard this
> phrase long before that.
>
> Any ideas of who or where this meme originated?
>
> Freddy
>
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