[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: Deceased Members of the Reading Hall of Fame

Mon Aug 13 10:54:27 BST 2018

I too have begun to back-door publish a number of my papers, through ResearchGate and my own web domain colinharrison.eu<http://www.colinharrison.eu>.

But I don’t share Stephen’s view; I’m extremely cautious about ‘FREE' open-access journals. As Milton Friedman said ‘There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch’. Or the computer sage Fred Brooks put it, "You can only get something for nothing if you have previously gotten nothing for something.” In my case the ‘something’ is the fee I pay to the domain that hosts my WordPress blog.

I’m not aware of paying to have my second blog on Tumblr, though, and that’s where you can find my critique of ‘un-publication’ in rogue online journals: http://colinharrison83.tumblr.com/.

As I see it, there are no ‘free’ online journals: they seem to fall into one of three groups:

  *   ‘free’ for the time being, with a reputable publisher planning to introduce fees for reading/publishing at a later date
  *   ‘free’ to the reader, with the authors having paid between $400 and $2000 for the privilege of being published by a reputable publisher
  *   ‘free’ to the reader, with the authors having paid between $400 and $2000 for the privilege of being published by a rogue publisher

What worried my most is that my masters level students are now beginning to cite papers from rogue journals which have published crackpot ideas that have gone through no peer-review process. I’m extremely uneasy about ‘easy access to scholarship’ might actually entail.

Colin

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Date: Sunday, 12 August 2018 at 02:35
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Subject: [Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: Deceased Members of the Reading Hall of Fame

To avoid these problems in the future, I suggest publishing in FREE open-access journals. This ensures that scholarship is available to everybody.
(Note - I have been inspired by Fields Medal winner, mathematician Timothy Gowers in moving away from hideously expensive journals. I post links to my papers, free download: at sdkrashen.com.)
Everyone should have easy access to scholarship.

On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 6:18:35 PM PDT, P Pearson <ppearson at berkeley.edu<mailto:ppearson at berkeley.edu>> wrote:

Thanks for the information, Yetta.

And those of us who are still living can decide whether we want to defy convention by posting the fruits of our labor on a website that probably violates every publisher agreement we ever signed.

I am a little less concerned about the archival literature of journals (except for the outrageous single copy fees that on-line publishers charge).  What really concerns me is the fate of all those chapters we have all published in low distribution edited volumes.  Some are in google books. But many, I fear, are lost forever.  For example, does ILA distribute, or even house, all the edited volumes it brought into the world.  There are hundreds, likely thousands, of chapters that may be lost to future scholars.  I have been starting to make my own pdf's of these volumes for I fear they will be lost.  I just don't know what to do with them.  I think I'll make a private repository of them on <http://pdavidpearson.org> pdavidpearson.org<colinharrison.eu> while I investigate what to do with them.  Maybe RHF is a good home for them.???

pdp

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Norman Stahl <flowercjs at aol.com<mailto:flowercjs at aol.com>> wrote:
David

Don Leu liked to use links as he was doing some of the initial work on the site. Unfortunately there are a number of links that do not work  at this time so I have been only uploading word documents and pdfs.

I've stayed away from living folks at the moment as I do not need one's permission to upload for the deceased and as for copyright...I'll pull something down if anyone complains.

It will take about a month before I can totally focus on the living. I do have files started for a number of folks. I'll have to get permission to upload stuff from each individual. Photos from the net of the living members have been uploaded when permission has been given, but so many simply folks do not return an e-mail.

Best

Norm

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From: P Pearson <ppearson at berkeley.edu<mailto:ppearson at berkeley.edu>>
To: Yetta Goodman <ygoodman at u.arizona.edu<mailto:ygoodman at u.arizona.edu>>
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Subject: [Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: Deceased Members of the Reading Hall of Fame

This is really important.  A personal experience will tell you why.  For my Festschrift celebration in June, I wanted to do some biographical sketches of my mentors.  Among them is, of course, Jay Samuels.  I went to the Hall of Fame site for Jay, where I was directed to a repository of his work on the U of MN website.  When I tried to access that site, I learned that it had been taken down by the U of MN (how soon they forget, right?).  So now I have no clue about how to proceed to obtain whatever it was that was on the U of M site.  Lesson learned about how and why we might use the space allocated to the RHF by xxx (who is donating our storage space anyway?  Is it U of A, Yetta and Ken?

pdp

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Yetta Goodman <ygoodman at u.arizona.edu<mailto:ygoodman at u.arizona.edu>> wrote:
Dear RHF members

I hope you all take the time to visit the Deceased Members List of the Reading Hall of Fame.  Ken and I are thrilled with the job that Norm Stahl has done with this list as current historian.  In supporting the development of the RHF members list during our work as RHF historians we are well aware of the time and effort that Norm put in to get the list in shape that other members could extend and use.

Here's lots of "thanks" and a big WELL DONE to Norm.  Check it out and we might consider how our literacy research students as well as ourselves can make greater use of this list and perhaps extend it.

As you look for deceased literacy scholars you were influenced by, this updated list may help us all to consider other deceased literacy scholars that may be missing.

Norm....   You did a great favor to us all.  Thanks, again!!

Yetta and Ken Goodman

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