[Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script

Thu Dec 17 22:36:18 GMT 2009

I would imagine the chemistry department would be the most miffed.

Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:15:30 +0000
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk

Yep. This isn't a Xerte problem, it's a Flash Player problem.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett
Sent: Thu 17/12/2009 19:49
To: Xerte list
Subject: FW: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script

Well, I guess that's what you get:
http://blog.ggshow.com/swf/superscript.swf

Hmph. Gross hyperbole.

;-)

From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:22:31 -0500

Has anyone else used the GG sb/sp fonts?

I am using them in conjunction with frutiger, and while the superscript looks fine, appearing above the line text, the subscript seems to appear on the same base level as the line text, just a smaller size.
I sort of expected it to drop below base.

Dave

Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:52:37 +0000
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk

Well, when you work for a University, not being able to do subscripts / superscripts is a big problem. People just simply don’t believe you when you try and tell them, and they just ask again, talking more slowly in case you’ve misunderstood…

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:49 PM
To: Xerte list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script

I'll try it out.
I had run across the GG solution in my search, but after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger I wondered if Frutiger Next might support ss/sp natively.
But fonts and how they are constructed is a mystery to me, so I'm probably mis-undertanding the concepts.
And I guess if Flash doesn't support the ss/sp concept, then it's academic anyway.

Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:25:12 +0000
From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk

I don’t think those characters are in the font – I think it’s the browser’s rendering that handles the / using the normal characters.

There are some free fonts out there for sub / sup:

http://blog.ggshow.com/index.php/reference/2007/04/19/how_to_use_subscript_aamp_superscript_in
Embed those with frutiger in the resources.swf. Then you can (conveniently) do

Here is a testhere is anotherand here is more. You might want to do some preparsing and replace in you code with the gribbly etc.

Why the flash player cannot handle this natively is a real pain.

Make sure the ttf files have a lowercase .ttf – the fonts are GGSUPERS.TTF when you download ‘em and Xerte is obviously looking for .ttf in amongst the files for the resources.swf.

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:05 PM
To: Xerte list
Subject: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script

With a hand from JT, I've managed to get embedded fonts (in this case Frutiger Linotype) and css with custom tags working together. I'll post the details for the archives once I get this last bit addressed.

Now, if I open Frontpage and use Frutiger as the font, I can subscript/superscript, so I assume the Frutiger Linotype has the ss/sp fonts in there.

I have embedded that font in resource.swf, and it appears as expected.

But I am not sure how to proceed as far as defining a character within Xerte such that it uses the ss/sp.
Flash (and hence Xerte) does not support the , tags, so how do we invoke them?

Cheers,

Dave 

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