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<br>I would imagine the chemistry department would be the most miffed.<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script<br>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:15:30 +0000<br>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" color="#000000" face="Arial">Yep. This isn't a Xerte problem, it's a Flash Player problem.</font></div></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> Thu 17/12/2009 19:49<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> FW: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script<br></font><br></div>
<div>Well, I guess that's what you get:<br>http://blog.ggshow.com/swf/superscript.swf<br><br>Hmph. Gross hyperbole.<br><br>;-)<br><br><br>
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From: d_b_burnett@hotmail.com<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script<br>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:22:31 -0500<br><br>
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<br>Has anyone else used the GG sb/sp fonts?<br><br>I am using them in conjunction with frutiger, and while the superscript looks fine, appearing above the line text, the subscript seems to appear on the same base level as the line text, just a smaller size.<br>I sort of expected it to drop below base.<br><br>Dave<br><br> <br><br><br>
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script<br>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:52:37 +0000<br>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br><br>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Well, when you work for a University, not being able to do subscripts / superscripts is a big problem. People just simply don’t believe you when you try and tell them, and they just ask again, talking more slowly in case you’ve misunderstood…</span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US"> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script</span></p></div></div>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 36pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"><br>I'll try it out.<br>I had run across the GG solution in my search, but after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger I wondered if Frutiger Next might support ss/sp natively.<br>But fonts and how they are constructed is a mystery to me, so I'm probably mis-undertanding the concepts.<br>And I guess if Flash doesn't support the ss/sp concept, then it's academic anyway.<br><br></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 36pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Subject: RE: [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script<br>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:25:12 +0000<br>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I don’t think those characters are in the font – I think it’s the browser’s rendering that handles the <sub> / <sup> using the normal characters.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">There are some free fonts out there for sub / sup:</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><a href="http://blog.ggshow.com/index.php/reference/2007/04/19/how_to_use_subscript_aamp_superscript_in">http://blog.ggshow.com/index.php/reference/2007/04/19/how_to_use_subscript_aamp_superscript_in</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Embed those with frutiger in the resources.swf. Then you can (conveniently) do</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Here is a test<font face="GGSUPERS">here is another</font>and here is <font face="GGSUBSCR"> more</font>. You might want to do some preparsing and replace <sub> in you code with the gribbly <font face=”GGSUPERS”> etc.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Why the flash player cannot handle this natively is a real pain.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Make sure the ttf files have a lowercase .ttf – the fonts are GGSUPERS.TTF when you download ‘em and Xerte is obviously looking for .ttf in amongst the files for the resources.swf.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US"> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Embedded fonts and super/sub script</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p></div></div>
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<p class="ecxecxecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"><br>With a hand from JT, I've managed to get embedded fonts (in this case Frutiger Linotype) and css with custom tags working together. I'll post the details for the archives once I get this last bit addressed.<br><br>Now, if I open Frontpage and use Frutiger as the font, I can subscript/superscript, so I assume the Frutiger Linotype has the ss/sp fonts in there.<br><br>I have embedded that font in resource.swf, and it appears as expected.<br><br>But I am not sure how to proceed as far as defining a character within Xerte such that it uses the ss/sp.<br>Flash (and hence Xerte) does not support the <sup>, <sub> tags, so how do we invoke them?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Dave </span></p>
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