[Xerte-dev] Re: Community Website

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Apr 25 14:36:11 BST 2013


Op 25-4-2013 15:29, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> It looks way different in FF to Chrome:
>
> Chrome looks not too bad:
>
> But FF is ugly
>
> IE is better
>
> *From:*Alistair McNaught [mailto:Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 25 April 2013 13:57
> *To:* Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers 
> (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)
> *Cc:* Inge Donkervoort 12Change (i.donkervoort at 12change.eu); 'Fay 
> Cross' (Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk); Nuno Jorge 
> (Nuno.Jorge at nottingham.ac.uk)
> *Subject:* RE: Community Website
>
> That's very odd -- I can't replicate those issues (except the 
> typography styles -- that's a consequence of things being written by 
> different people at different times and not yet having evolved a style 
> guide).
>
> The whole point -- to me -- about a community site is that it will 
> evolve. If we're encouraging community wider contribution we'll need 
> to accept a level of stylistic difference. I'm not getting any jumping 
> around of panels etc and I'm finding all the resources I expected to 
> on the Resources page.
>
> I think the question of whether a community site is ready to be 
> launched is a question for the community to decide and this little bit 
> of the community in southern England feels the benefits of the site 
> for new users far outweigh any current problems. What does the rest of 
> the community feel?
>
> We were planning on launching the site to the public tomorrow so a 
> consensus (or at least a quorum) view would be welcome sooner rather 
> than later!
>
> Alistair
>
> *From:*Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 25 April 2013 13:41
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
> *Cc:* Alistair McNaught; Inge Donkervoort 12Change 
> (i.donkervoort at 12change.eu <mailto:i.donkervoort at 12change.eu>); 'Fay 
> Cross' (Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk>); Nuno Jorge 
> (Nuno.Jorge at nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:Nuno.Jorge at nottingham.ac.uk>)
> *Subject:* Community Website
>
> I have to say, I'm not sure the community web site is ready for public 
> consumption. If I go there now, the links are all inconsistent and 
> wrap badly, the login box isn't aligned, I couldn't find the 
> downloads, and I'm just not very happy with the way it looks. When you 
> navigate around the pages, the panels jump about. There is 
> inconsistent typography in headings, margins, line breaks and font 
> sizes, the resources page doesn't contain any resources, the resource 
> panel is repeated on both the showcases and resources page, the FAQ 
> page has styles all of its own and there's a ton other stuff: it's all 
> just a bit of a mess if you ask me.
>
> I'm not putting down the work that has gone into it, but I know we can 
> do a lot better than this: it just doesn't feel finished, and it 
> doesn't inspire me with confidence in the tools.
>
> At the moment I would prefer to put v2.0 on the main Xerte web site 
> and direct people there, and we can continue working on the community 
> site now we've got this tranche of development work out of the way. We 
> can re-visit the styling of the application as well at the same time, 
> and make the two work together: Nuno applied the same set of styles to 
> toolkits this week, and it didn't work very well.
>
> So here's my recommendation: we put v2.0 on the Xerte site as we 
> always have done (or link directly from there to Tom's zip, without 
> letting the user see the community site if they follow the link from 
> www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte <http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte>: they 
> just get the downloaded zip). Then we properly finish the community 
> site, and re-skin toolkits in the next batch of work.
>
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