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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 25-4-2013 15:29, Julian Tenney
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It looks way
different in FF to Chrome:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chrome looks
not too bad:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:part2.04060406.07050707@tor.nl" width="423"
height="310"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">But FF is ugly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">IE is better<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> Alistair McNaught
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk">mailto:Alistair.McNaught@HEAcademy.ac.uk</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2013 13:57<br>
<b>To:</b> Julian Tenney; For Xerte technical developers
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Inge Donkervoort 12Change
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a>); 'Fay Cross'
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>); Nuno Jorge
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk">Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Community Website<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That’s very
odd – I can’t replicate those issues (except the
typography styles – that’s a consequence of things being
written by different people at different times and not yet
having evolved a style guide).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The whole
point – to me – about a community site is that it will
evolve. If we’re encouraging community wider contribution
we’ll need to accept a level of stylistic difference. I’m
not getting any jumping around of panels etc and I’m
finding all the resources I expected to on the Resources
page. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think
the question of whether a community site is ready to be
launched is a question for the community to decide and
this little bit of the community in southern England
feels the benefits of the site for new users far
outweigh any current problems. What does the rest of the
community feel? </span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We were
planning on launching the site to the public tomorrow so a
consensus (or at least a quorum) view would be welcome
sooner rather than later!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Alistair</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> Julian Tenney [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2013 13:41<br>
<b>To:</b> For Xerte technical developers (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-dev@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alistair McNaught; Inge Donkervoort
12Change (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:i.donkervoort@12change.eu">i.donkervoort@12change.eu</a>);
'Fay Cross' (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk">Fay.Cross@nottingham.ac.uk</a>);
Nuno Jorge (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk">Nuno.Jorge@nottingham.ac.uk</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Community Website</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have to say, I’m not sure the community
web site is ready for public consumption. If I go there now,
the links are all inconsistent and wrap badly, the login box
isn’t aligned, I couldn’t find the downloads, and I’m just
not very happy with the way it looks. When you navigate
around the pages, the panels jump about. There is
inconsistent typography in headings, margins, line breaks
and font sizes, the resources page doesn’t contain any
resources, the resource panel is repeated on both the
showcases and resources page, the FAQ page has styles all of
its own and there’s a ton other stuff: it’s all just a bit
of a mess if you ask me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m not putting down the work that has
gone into it, but I know we can do a lot better than this:
it just doesn’t feel finished, and it doesn’t inspire me
with confidence in the tools.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At the moment I would prefer to put v2.0
on the main Xerte web site and direct people there, and we
can continue working on the community site now we’ve got
this tranche of development work out of the way. We can
re-visit the styling of the application as well at the same
time, and make the two work together: Nuno applied the same
set of styles to toolkits this week, and it didn’t work very
well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So here’s my recommendation: we put v2.0
on the Xerte site as we always have done (or link directly
from there to Tom’s zip, without letting the user see the
community site if they follow the link from <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte">www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte</a>:
they just get the downloaded zip). Then we properly finish
the community site, and re-skin toolkits in the next batch
of work.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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