[Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2

Kumar Ghorpade rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in
Wed Nov 19 12:28:10 GMT 2014


For an experienced field entomologist
the 'jizz' of hoverflies and bumblebees are very different !  Yes,
Criorhina species are wonderful bumblebee mimics.  And I caught a
Pararctophila drinking water from a small rill in Kashmir, like Martin writes.
Never any Cheilosia seen doing that (common on flowers) but that genus is
diverse on our Himalayas and poorly researched.  Good luck, remember
Syrphinae will be more frequent at high altitudes than Eristalines, very few or
no Microdontinae !   If you need IDs I would be glad to help. 

 
Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:  P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.  Registered mail to:  "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).


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 From: Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, 7 November 2014 9:56 PM
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2
 


Good luck with your trip! Two observations:

1. catch every bumblebee you see, it is very often a Syrphid, I encountered some species which fooled me!

2. Often not much on flowers, but Cheilosia will sit down on the ground and drink water, when there is a bit running water on the path... Never saw that behavior anywhere else, but in Nepal, it was the best way to catch Cheilosia. 


Cheers

Martin



On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Malin Thyselius <malin.thyselius at gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for the replays!
>If I manage to proceed with the trip I'll be sure to share any good photos.
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>>Hi, does anyone know what hoverfly species to expect in the Himalayas
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>>Malin,
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>>Not at 4000m that is mighty high, though I had Pararctophila (oberthueri?),
>>Eristalis cerealis, E.tenax, Syrphus ribessi and a Sphaerophoria from the
>>hills around Srinigar, and if the butterflies are anything to go by, stuff
>>gets blown higher than it breeds. Let us know what you find (and any
>>photos),
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>>Steven
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>>Hi, does anyone know what hoverfly species to expect in the Himalayas
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>>Best Regards
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>>You might find a species of Lycastris, something I have always wanted to see, with its outlandishly long proboscis !
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>>Francis
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>>From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Steven Falk
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>>Malin,
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>>Not at 4000m that is mighty high, though I had Pararctophila (oberthueri?), Eristalis cerealis, E.tenax, Syrphus ribessi and a Sphaerophoria from the hills around Srinigar, and if the butterflies are anything to go by, stuff gets blown higher than it breeds. Let us know what you find (and any photos),
>>
>>Steven
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>>Steven Falk
>>Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
>>www.stevenfalk.co.uk<http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/>
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>>Wildlife identification resources at:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200@N07/collections/
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>>From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Malin Thyselius
>>Sent: 05 November 2014 13:07
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>>Subject: [Syrphidae] Hoverflies in the Himalayas
>>Hi, does anyone know what hoverfly species to expect in the Himalayas (India) at about 4000 m above sea level?
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>>Best Regards
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