[Syrphidae] Re: The 8th International Symposium on Syrphidae 2015 - announcement
roger.morris at dsl.pipex.com
roger.morris at dsl.pipex.com
Tue Sep 24 21:08:03 BST 2013
I think the real crunch is whether the meeting is arranged as a collecting trip or whether it is a
3-day symposium with an excursion. If it is a collecting trip then maybe it should be a longer trip
for those who want such things, but, if the main focus is the symposium then surely that should take
priority and should aim to fit with the academic year.
For me, the first two weeks of July will be out completely. My preference would be for late July or
August as any earlier gets in the way of key fieldwork.
At the end of the day you will not please everybody and therefore you must make a decision and run
with what fits the profile you seek. You will not get a unanimous vote either way. Early June will
knock out many academics and possibly people like me who will head for under-recorded areas of the
UK. Go later and you won't satisfy the needs of those who wish to collect.
My big concern is that the original model that Ulrich so excellently set was a symposium. It is
this, I would argue, that has helped so much in galvanising the work of various teams, and so it
seems to me that the priority should be the engagement that stimulates new research collaborations.
Field trips have been a later addition, but seem now to be the tail wagging the dog.
Quoting ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>:
> Dear Brigitte,
> I totally understand academic colleagues... but late June brings other
> problems: less flies!
> One of the attractions of these symposia is the "last day" excursion, and
> my colleagues and I have decided that Beginning of June is the best time.
> There is an explanation for all :)
> Dr. Ximo Mengual
> Head of the Diptera Section
> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
> Leibniz-Institut für Biodiversität der Tiere
> Adenauerallee 160
> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
> ZFMK web <http://www.zfmk.de/web/ZFMK_Mitarbeiter/MengualXimo/index.en.html>
> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
> 2013/9/24 Brigitte Howarth <brigitte.howarth at gmail.com>
> > Greetings, All,
> > Sounds like you had a wonderful time in Novosibirsk. The prices and
> > location look ok, though I understand totally where Roger is coming from
> > (regarding finances!). What worries me are the dates. At the end of the
> > academic year we are completely swamped with administration and it may be
> > difficult to get away in early June, though it's better than later in
> > Beginning of July is best, but perhaps the date change is not an option.
> > Thanks so much for being involved in organizing and asking questions.
> > Best,
> > Brigitte
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM, ximo mengual sanchis
> <xmengual at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >> As you well know, we had a wonderful symposium in Novosibirsk last June
> >> where we all enjoyed the Siberian hospitality and kindness. Personally, I
> >> want to thank the organizers and our friends Anatolij Barkalov and Valeri
> >> Mutin.
> >> During the last talk session, participants decided that the next
> >> symposium (ISS8) will take place in Germany, close to Bonn. Thus, I want
> >> welcome you all to my new "house" and I hope you can take part of this
> >> event!
> >> Björn Rulik and I are organizing the symposium with hope and effort to
> >> make you feel comfortable. At this moment, we can say that the meeting
> >> will take place from June 4th to 8th of 2015.
> >> I discussed with some of you the possible locations of the next meeting.
> >> There were two options:
> >> - Bonn city; this option means that everyone must look for his/her
> >> accommodation. Talks would take place in the museum.
> >> - outside Bonn, in a location where we can stay together. Björn found a
> >> great place to stay in Monschau, the Hotel Carat:
> >> http://www.carathotel.de/start/ . Monschau is a historic town with
> >> beautiful environs, close to the Eifel Natural Park.
> >> At this point, I would like to start a discussion with all of you who
> >> pretend to come. The discussion or "poll" is about the "lodging price"
> >> would pay to attend the meeting. here the quote we received for four
> >> nights, including breakfast and lunch, but WITHOUT dinner:
> >> - Single room: 85 euros per night. Total (4 nights) = 340 euros
> >> - Double room: 70 euros per night. Total (4 nights) = 280 euros
> >> As you can imagine, this is the best quote we can get and there are some
> >> basic things not included.
> >> I would like everyone (yes! everyone of you) gives me his opinion about
> >> the location and the prices. Why am I doing this? Before sending the
> >> official letter, I want that the maximum number of participants come and
> >> participate giving talks, and posters.
> >> Based on the last experience in Novosibirsk, I decided to go ahead and
> >> make this explicit poll to continue and perpetuate the high attendance of
> >> previous symposia.
> >> Please answer and give us your opinion.
> >> The Organizing Committee of the 8th International Symposium on Syrphidae
> >> welcomes all of you!
> >> Best regards,
> >> Ximo
> >> ********************************************************
> >> Dr. Ximo Mengual
> >> Head of the Diptera Section
> >> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
> >> Leibniz-Institut für Biodiversität der Tiere
> >> Adenauerallee 160
> >> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
> >> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
> >> ZFMK
> >> <http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html>
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