[Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis

Mon May 21 18:16:19 BST 2012

brilliant, Malcolm! That's really nifty!

Francis

Dr Francis Gilbert
Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology
University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK
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From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of MalcolmSmart at talktalk.net
Sent: 21 May 2012 16:42
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis

I'm glad to hear that the picture was taken in Switzerland as it very definitely is Arctophila. The wing venation of A. bombiformis is quite different from V. bombylans. The attached picture shows an extract of the wing from the original picture with photographs of the wings of both species from specimens in my collection placed in similar positions. The ratio of the lengths of the second and third sections of M1 is completely different (see red lines), as is the degree of re-entry of the final section of M1 (blue lines). The face of Volucella is covered in dense pile, that of Arctophila is just dusted.
V. bombylans from UK, A. bombyformis from Spain.
Malcolm Smart

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> Dear Francis!
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> Did you know that you were the first person I was
> thinking of asking it to, personally!
> Well, would have guessed you were
> the one to reply first... thank you very much again!
>
> Cheers, Andr?
> PS
> Did I ever send you my paper, checklist of Portuguese Syrphidae?
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> Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 11:32:
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>> with best wishes
>>
>
>> Francis
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>> Dear colleages,
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>> I am looking for the following paper, preferrably as pdf:
>>
>>
> Barkemeyer, W. (1986) Zum Vorkommen seltener und bemerkenswerter
> Schwebfliegen in Niedersachsen
>> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Drosera, '86(2):
> 79-88.
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>> Can anyone provide me a copy?
>> Thank you very much!
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> Dear Francis,
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> With a face like that, it can only be one. Hence the
> ID is correct: Arctophila bombiformis!
>
> Greetings,
>
> Andr? van
> Eck
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> Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 10:28:
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>
>> hi everyone
>>
>> Thanks to all who responded to my request. If
> anyone else has an opinion on whether this is a strange morph of
> Volucella bombylans or Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have
> actually seen Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to
> let me know.
>>
>> The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2
> Sept 2005 in her garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this
> species, it will of course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest!
>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Francis
>>
>> Dr Francis Gilbert
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> Pat now has searched it down more thoroughly and tells me that the photo 
> must have been taken in Switzerland, NOT in St Andrews!!
>
> Sorry to have been mistaken... got very excited for one moment!
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> As Roger said, best to be sure!
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> Best wishes
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> Francis
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