[Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Julian Tenney
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Mon Apr 27 13:35:30 BST 2015
If I were making a new type of interaction that I wanted to use a lot, or let non-technical users instantiate, definitely build a new page type. You'll need to make a model file that contains the logic and handles the data and an .xwd file that describes the wizard. You need to ut the new xwd file in the src/models folder and run the batch file in there to create a new data.xwd file which you can then replace the one at odules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham with the one you just made.
If I were building one-off interactivity or fancy media stuff, I would probably code it up in notepad++ as a standalone html file and then copy / paste the resulting code into an embed page. If that didn't work (because the html wasn't being escaped or something) I'd upload the html file and embed it.
Whilst you can write html into xerte pages, it gets to be a PITA unless it's quite short. If you're writing one file, you will probably have
<script>
<style>
and <html> sections.
You have jQuery in there already.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: 27 April 2015 13:26
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Julian,
Thanks... I'll give that a try.
Regards
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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:23:16 +0100
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
The html files are modules/xerte/play.php (and preview.php), which kicks up the project and then the specifics for each page type are in the models folder in modules\xerte\parent_templates\Nottingham\models_html5.
You can write html directly into the page: try a plain text page and put some html in.
There are broadly these approaches:
- If you want to support the custom piece with a wizard for the data, add a new page type to the suite;
- If you just want to build something custom, code it directly into the page;
- You can write your own html page, host it somewhere and then embed it;
- (I think) you can use the embed page to include a custom html page in a project(?)
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: 27 April 2015 13:19
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Sorry for the confusion.
I created a project in XOT. I wanted to look at the html / js that XOT created to do the simple function.
Figured the XOT files that included the html/js would be in xampp\htdocs\xertetoolkits\??? but didn't see anything I thought looked right.
Maybe I misinterpreted your original response... maybe you were saying I could enter the html / js directly into text fields in the XOT development environment?? I thought you meant I could edit the output of XOT to create the added functionality.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Have a great day.
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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:02:28 +0100
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Backpeddle a bit - you created a page...
...in Xerte online toolkits?
...in an HTML editor?
Which html / js files do you mean?
Tell me what you're trying to do.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: 27 April 2015 13:01
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Julian,
Just 1 question to start... I created a simple page called Test1. Where do I find the HTML / JS file(s)? (I'm using XOT with XAMPP on my local computer.)
Thanks... and have a great day,
Kent
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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:15:04 +0100
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Not really, fire away with questions here: I'm keen that the more advanced stuff works well and is easy for people like yourself with a developer hat on to use / make use of. It's always been an important element of toolkits that it's good for both technical and non-technical users - simple things should be simple, anything should be possible.
You probably already know more js than you realise.
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: 27 April 2015 12:12
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
Julian,
Thanks so much for the information. I'm happy to see that XOT is so extensible... and I need to learn some JS anyway.
I'll generate a simple learning object and try to add a variable (or something like that) to see if I can figure out how to do it. Any resources (besides this great e-mail list) available that I should have a look at?
Thanks for all of your help.
Have a great day,
Kent
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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:47:21 +0100
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Limitations
No plans to upgrade the old windows xerte I'm afraid. However, Xerte Online Toolkits will do a lot of what you need. You can easily extend the existing suite of templates with your own html and javascript, so you can effectively build whatever you want. Since the runtime is now html, you can simply do...
<script>
//here is some javascript
alert("hello world");
</script>
and
<style>
Some CSSClass {
//style info here
}
...pretty much anywhere you can enter text.
You can also easily add your own templates to the suite if you want them to be wizard / data driven. On top off that you can load javascript libraries, so the world pretty much is your oyster.
Branching can be achieved either through the connectors page types, or through your own code.
SCORM tracking might need a bit of work to get it tracking what you need. Otherwise you can easily add your own functions for sending / getting database data.
Julian
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: 25 April 2015 19:55
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Subject: [Xerte] XOT Limitations
I'm a longtime user of Xerte (standalone version) and I've just started playing with XOT. It appears that XOT is rather limited (or maybe I'm just not seeing it). Does XOT...
* Support variables and calculations?
* Support scripting?
* Support branching?
* Allow users to input text and numeric data? (need multiple input fields on a page)
* Allow using user input data in other strings? (like a url)
* Allow user input data to be checked for correctness?
* Keep track of student input and scores?
Also, is there any plan to upgrade the standalone Xerte to publish as HTML5?
Thanks for any help you can provide,
Kent
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