[Xerte] Re: Creating Animation

Pat L (pgogy) xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Mon Aug 11 13:09:42 BST 2014 

is it a mozilla open source no mp4 / mp3 codec issue?


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:

> Did a quick search and found a couple of references to problems with
> video.js e.g.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14541449/video-js-breaks-popcorn-js-on-ipad/14542235#14542235
>
> The real shame for me is that the free https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ tool
> has some great functionality and all the remix and sharing etc and is easy
> enough for our FWS target audience to use and generates links or embed code
> for using within Xerte LO's e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_147
> which work fine on laptop/desktop but not on ipad :-( Actually that xerte
> example does work on iPad via puffin browser but that's not really the
> point is it. It's almost worse that the  the content appears to load ok on
> iPad and certainly the first screen and controls are visible than if it
> were to do what normally happens with actual Flash content and just
> displays a blank screen.
>
> I guess a native Xerte page type will be different anyway but as you say
> stresses the importance of testing before too much work is done.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 August 2014 11:44
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> Then there must be more to it than just popcorn.js, but important to test
> against the iPad in case it is a feature of the library somewhere,
>
> Cheers,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 11 August 2014 11:43
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> On the Mozilla gallery page https://webmaker.org/en-US/gallery you can
> filter by Popcorn examples e.g. this example
> https://pkittle.makes.org/popcorn/1hyl works fine on my laptop but not on
> ipad. In fact on iPad I get 2 incompatibility messages the first of which
> suggests flash is required and the second just says browser incompatible.
> Perhaps it's the overlay functionality causing the problem on iPad? Anyway
> there's clearly a difference between the Mozilla tool output or the
> hosting/playback of it compared with using the js library elsewhere e.g. in
> Xerte?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 August 2014 11:05
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> OK, good. That would have been a bit of a showstopper if it didn't work on
> ipads (I wonder why not then?)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 11 August 2014 11:02
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> Ok cheers at least that loads on iPad and I can see the changes being
> triggered. Everything else I've looked at created with Popcorn Webmaker
> displays an incompatibility message on iPad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 August 2014 10:21
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> I do: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/popcorn (it doesn't do much,
> but you can see it working or not - the video was the week the dads took
> over Alice's homework...)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 11 August 2014 10:19
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> No I mean that everything I've seen/tested from popcorn video examples
> don't work but perhaps that's only stuff created with the Mozilla tool
> itself? Do you know of any examples created with just the library for
> checking/testing on ipad?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 August 2014 09:55
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> You mean the popcorn library doesn't work in Safari on iPads? Really?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 09 August 2014 21:10
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
>
> As far as I'm aware though popcorn still doesn't work on iPads?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 9 Aug 2014, at 20:01, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > Fay is working on a popcorn based template. It would be good to get
> > your ideas, as we are still at early stages
> > ________________________________________
> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rick Ashby
> > [ashbrix at gmail.com]
> > Sent: 09 August 2014 16:56
> > To: Pat Lockley; Xerte discussion list
> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating Animation
> >
> > I'd like to bump Pat's suggestion to consider a Popcorn based solution
> > as the most robust solution to this.  Notice how ellegantly the
> > KettleCorn project has adapted Popcorn maker to Journalism:
> > http://www.innovation-series.com/2013/10/24/introducing-kettlecorn-for
> > king-popcorn-maker-for-journalists/
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Pat L (pgogy) <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
> <mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>> wrote:
> > Maybe Popcorn?
> >
> > https://popcorn.webmaker.org/
> >
> > Could make a popcorn module?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> > I’m just wondering what approaches people use for this sort of thing:
> > we have a lecturer who wants to create animation simply. He’s
> > currently using powerpoint to create this sort of thing:
> > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_10711
> >
> > I think the results are really good, and it’s taken some time to get
> right. I’m interested in optimising the approach a bit, to make it fast and
> efficient: maybe this is the best way of doing it, maybe there are others?
> >
> > What I’m interested in is what approaches / tools do people use for this
> sort of thing? It doesn’t have to be high end output: it could be a mixture
> of screen capture, whilst dragging things around and narrating the process
> for example. We’re not looking to turn staff into Flash developers, it’s
> more about simple approaches that are easy and quick to do.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >
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