[Xerte] Re: Playing around with XerteToolkits - heading levels on right click menu?
Julian Tenney
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Fri May 3 12:02:46 BST 2013
So you'd want just one H3 inserter on the menu?
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: 03 May 2013 11:57
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Playing around with XerteToolkits - heading levels on right click menu?
> By the way, I've used H1 & H2 for the project title and page title so where ever I've added extra headings in the page contents I've only used H3 onwards
That's well worth knowing and lends strength to the argument for having a single heading level (H3) available in the right click context menu to avoid people trying to be more accessible and accidentally being more confusing!
I'd be very interested to see how the aria landmarks might work on a page level to help a blind user imagine the purpose and design of the page layout more effectively.
Alistair
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
Sent: 02 May 2013 15:40
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Playing around with XerteToolkits - heading levels on right click menu?
Hi Alistair
I'll look in to Aria Landmarks and try adding them to define the main interface sections next week (I realise I've been saying for some time that I'll look in to it but it's now in my calendar so I won't forget :) ).
By the way, I've used H1 & H2 for the project title and page title so where ever I've added extra headings in the page contents I've only used H3 onwards. If an author manually adds H1/2 in the wizard the wizard then the structure might become a bit confusing.
Fay
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: 02 May 2013 15:10
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Subject: [Xerte] Playing around with XerteToolkits - heading levels on right click menu?
If you've been listening to any TechDis mantra over recent years you'll realise that adding heading levels to documents is really important for accessibility for all sorts of reasons, but especially for blind people.
Yesterday I was working with some publishing colleagues on accessibility guidance for publishers and we were playing with toolkits to see how much html we could add in the editor and have it carry through to the html5 output. I was excited to find we could embed heading levels, tables and even inline styling - (for colour coding ONIX accessibility metadata if you really want to know!).
Of all these things the most genuinely useful for non-technical users would be to have a rightclick option in the editor to be able to apply a heading level in the same way it currently applies bold, italic and hyperlinking etc.
Could Aria Landmarks be added in a similar way? Or can they be built in automatically (since most page types have clearly identifiable areas that relate to Aria definitions like
main: Main content in a document.
complementary: Any section of the document that supports but is separable from the main content, but is meaningful on its own even when separated from it. (Nested pages?)
form: A region of the document that represents a collection of form-associated elements, some of which can represent editable values that can be submitted to a server for processing. (Gap fill and hangman?)
navigation: A collection of links suitable for use when navigating the document or related documents.
More questions than answers but you have to realise the flack I get from accessibility militants that Toolkits "doesn't do semantic structure" etc. Now that I've realised it CAN I'd love to be able to find away of making it easy for non coders to do it.
How feasible is tweaking of the right click Editor menu? How long would it take? Where in the scale of costs or favours does this lie? A pint at the local? a meal at the Indian restaurant? A day out at Thorpe Park or a new house?
Alistair
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