[Xerte] Re: Xerte Project Questions

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Fri Jan 18 13:14:07 GMT 2013


The logical thing to do is to add a WordPress like hook system to each page
so you can write code to monitor your own events

It wouldn't be reinventing the wheel and would be a useful thing to do in
Open Source terms


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Julian Tenney <
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> So you see our problem: you want to track that stuff, but someone else
> will want to track a different cocktail of things, so how do we provide for
> both in a generic sense?
>
> It would be fairly trivial to customise your install to do what you want
> though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of avitor training
> Sent: 18 January 2013 12:33
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Project Questions
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> "what is it you need to achieve that you can't currently do?"
>
> For a clean sheet implementation, I need to produce an e-learning system
> within a few weeks where for quality assurance purposes, student activities
> such as page or media viewing, as well as test results, are recorded for
> audit purposes.
>
> The LMS will probably be Moodle and Xerte is one of several available
> authoring tools which can potentially assist experienced trainers
> transitioning from a seminar and powerpoint/handout based learning method.
>
> I'd rather not reinvent the wheel, but if I have to write interim or
> permanent bespoke code for this I will, naturally it would be preferable to
> integrate and support an authoring tool which is headed in the right
> direction within a defined timeframe. That probably means that if this
> functionality isn't starting to appear in Xerte within about six months, it
> won't be a beneficial tool for this application.
>
> Julian
>
> >> Are there plans for implimenting SCORM support in Xerte beyond
> >> version 1.2, and if so is there a timetable?
> >
> > Let me turn the question around: what is it you need to achieve that
> > you can't currently do?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of avitor
> > training
> > Sent: 16 January 2013 18:39
> > To: Xerte discussion list
> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte Project Questions
> >
> > Thanks to Tom and Pat for that, I'll make another installation
> > following those guidelines.
> >
> > Regarding SCORM, I did not mean to be unhelpful; incorporating by
> > reference means the target, in  this case Moodle can be consulted for
> > the latest support. The current version of SCORM is 2004 and this is
> > supported in Moodle via a plugin. Version 1.2 is supported natively as
> > I understand is the case with Xerte. Of course, the successor to the
> SCORM 2004 spec.
> > is already at version 0.95 so a 1.0 release may appear soon.
> >
> > Are there plans for implimenting SCORM support in Xerte beyond version
> > 1.2, and if so is there a timetable?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >> Regarding the security:
> >>
> >> Even though the manual sys you have to do this, this is not necessary.
> >> You only need to open up the write permissions for the ' web browser
> >> user'. i.e. the owner of the web browser process needs to be able to
> >> write in those folders.
> >>
> >> For Linux and apache this means that the files should be owned by the
> >> user that runs the apache process. Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Regarding SCORM: 'Keeping up with Moodle'  regrettably is not very
> >> help full for me, as Moodle and Xerte are two completely different
> >> packages.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> Op 16-1-2013 13:11, avitor training schreef:
> >>> Thanks for the quick reply. Re SCORM, in general, keeping up with
> >>> Moodle at least, though of course SCORM/AICC is evolving (TIN CAN
> >>> /CMI-5).
> >>>
> >>> The biggest problem currently is the publicly writable directories
> >>> (chmod 0777, toolkits installation guide p19,) which is a security
> >>> issue and quite correctly forbidden by some hosting services (we are
> >>> talking about a potential internet not an intranet application here).
> >>>
> >>> Can the location of these be changed (perhaps within a config file,)
> >>> to a server location that has no URL, so for example from:
> >>>
> >>> opt/domainname/web/html[site root]/xerte/USER-FILES
> >>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>> opt/domainname/web/private/USER-FILES
> >>>
> >>> to enable test and integration of the online toolkit without the
> >>> security issues?
> >>>
> >>> Also, as this online toolkit installation hasn't been completed for
> >>> the above reasons, does it render the same as the techdis version
> >>> does on some high aspect ratio laptop screens, i.e. with the 'play'
> >>> icon and other page foot features of the new project dialogue out of
> >>> view in a window with no scroll bar?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks for any suggestions in advance.
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, still very actively being developed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Out new website has some broken links, but don't let that worry you
> >>>> (I thought I'd found and fixed them all?)
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom has some plans for more SCORM support: what are your
> >>>> requirements here?
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of avitor
> >>>> training
> >>>> Sent: 15 January 2013 10:50
> >>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >>>> Subject: [Xerte] Xerte Project Questions
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a few questions about the project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this project still being actively developed and in particular,
> >>>> is there any intention to release further versions with support for
> >>>> later SCORM or AICC standards? If so, is there a roadmap or
> >>>> timetable for this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a bug list -I've has difficulties setting up the Xerte
> >>>> Online Toolkits on a hosting server for test because of security
> >>>> issues over publicly writable directories (could these not be
> >>>> relocated to a folder path without a url?) and for example the
> >>>> hosted techdis version does not display properly in my browser?
> >>>>
> >>>> There are several broken links on the project site
> >>>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/ and I'm wondering if the targets
> >>>> have been relocated or withdrawn?
> >>>>
> >>>> I did e-mail the developers at Nottingham over all these issues but
> >>>> received no reply so far.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Julian
> >>>>
> >>>>
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