[Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade

Tue Jan 15 17:00:17 GMT 2013

The code is a step removed from the stuff I wrote, so I can't really advise
on LDAP

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>wrote:

> Hi Adam****
>
> I'm afraid I don't have access to an LDAP server currently to test this
> and I'm not sure if the current LDAP code is supposed to work with multiple
> rows in the ldap table or not so hopefully Pat, David or Thomas can advise.
> ****
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> Do you have many students accessing XOT to author with? Can you get by
> with Staff access until someone else responds? ****
>
> ** **
>
> If not the following would be a hack and not the right long term solution
> but in theory might work - copy the ldap table, Ldap.php and index.php
> and change those so that perhaps index.php is the staff login page and
> student_index.php is the student login page. Obviously this would mean
> editing the php and table calls etc. As I said not the right solution and
> might not even work but might just be a short term solution if you don't
> want to revert back to 1.8. I've done similar things previously where a mix
> of both LDAP and Moodle authentication was required.****
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>
> HTH
> Ron****
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 14:04
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
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> I’ve turned on error reporting, however, it doesn’t output anything
> different on failed login. Just the following message:****
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> Issue connecting to ldap server (#4) : No entries found ****
>
> – which correlates with what I’d expect to see if it’s looking in the
> wrong OU. Swap the rows around and I get straight in using my staff
> details, no errors.****
>
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> *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)*
>
> Senior e-Learning Technologist****
>
> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John****
>
> *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 108****
>
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 13:16
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> It looks like the code should loop through each row in the ldap table
> trying to use the username and password posted but I could be wrong about
> that. Hopefully someone else will respond but meanwhile try changing
> $development = false; to $development = true; in the top of config.php and
> then restart all browser windows and see what errors you get when trying to
> login.****
>
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>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 12:39
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
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>
> I had that “urika” moment also. However, it still doesn’t work. With a
> student ldap bind in the first row of ldap table students can login staff
> cannot and vice versa. Having 2 rows in the ldap table still only allows
> whichever ldap query is set in row one to work.****
>
> ** **
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> I thought I might be even sneakier and added the $$$ delimiter to every
> value in row 1 of the table but that means no one can login.****
>
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> Oerrr. ****
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> *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)*
>
> Senior e-Learning Technologist****
>
> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John****
>
> *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 108****
>
> [image: elearninglogo300dpi2] <http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/>****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 12:28
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> Sorry I don't have regular access to different LDAP configurations to test
> this kind of thing but there are some notes in
> \library\Xerte\Authentication\Ldap.php that might help you resolve this. As
> a guess try adding an extra row in the ldap table which I think you'll have
> to do direct in the db because I don't think there's an option for that in
> management.php Also from memory there's a field (knownname) that I think
> isn't typically used but requires a not null value sow when adding a row
> manually just put elm in there which I think is added by default during a
> new install.****
>
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>
> Let us know if that works or indeed if not?****
>
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>
> Pat or David or Thomas if he's about might have additional suggestions.***
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>
> Ron****
>
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 12:05
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
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>
> OK, so we’ve identified the problem. It would appear that 1.9 no longer
> likes “multiple entries” in the LDAP configuration.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, in our installation we use the $$$ delimiter to differentiate ldap
> calls between staff and students. This breaks it with a “binding” error at
> logon. Using just the details for either staff or students works.****
>
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>
> Any ideas if the delimiter stuff has been altered in the upgrade?****
>
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> *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)*
>
> Senior e-Learning Technologist****
>
> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John****
>
> *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 108****
>
> [image: elearninglogo300dpi2] <http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/>****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 11:30
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> You can change the settings via management.php but if you're looking
> direct in the database perhaps the attached will help?****
>
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>
> Let us know?****
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> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 11:06
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> OK, so I’ve followed all the steps listed below (guest access worked etc)
> and when attempting to login via LDAP I’m getting ****
>
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> Issue connecting to ldap server (#2) : Binding****
>
> ** **
>
> All the details in the ldap table look correct to me. The only thing
> missing was a blank “ldap_filter” entry whereas ldap_filter_atr had a
> value. Is this the issue? I’ve tried changing the entries to be the same
> with no joy but suspect that’s wrong****
>
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>
> *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)*
>
> Senior e-Learning Technologist****
>
> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John****
>
> *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 108****
>
> [image: elearninglogo300dpi2] <http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/>****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 10:25
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> Why create a new install? Easier and better to upgrade the existing
> install. General process as follows:****
>
> ** **
>
> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case****
>
> 2. drop 1.9 code over top of existing code****
>
> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access
> e.g. create and test an LO****
>
> 4. If you are using LDAP for authentication visit
> http://yourinstall/upgrade.php to automatically copy details from
> sitedeatils to ldap table****
>
> 5. change from guest to ldap or one of the other authentication options in
> auth_config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line****
>
> 6. If you are using Moodle for authentication read and follow the
> instructions in the moodle_integration_readme file****
>
> 7. refresh index.php and test login and creation etc****
>
> ** **
>
> A final point - there isn't a maintenance mode like these is in Moodle for
> preventing non-admins logging in during upgrade and you dodn't want people
> creating new LO's in case you do have to revert back so perhaps schedule
> this and notify people and/or rename index.php temporarily so only you can
> visit and test etc.****
>
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>
> HTH****
>
> Ron****
>
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>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Adam Read
> *Sent:* 15 January 2013 09:49
> *To:* 'Xerte discussion list'
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> I was hoping to do the very same today. Any technical suggestions for this
> all?****
>
> ** **
>
> I suppose the alternative is to run up a new installation of XOT in a
> separate location/database and then move the user content over – how
> possible/easy is this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Guidance gratefully received.****
>
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>
> Adam****
>
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> *Adam Read **BA (Hons) PG Cert ODE (Open)*
>
> Senior e-Learning Technologist****
>
> University College Plymouth St Mark & St John****
>
> *Tel*: 01752 636700 *Ext*: 5673 | *Room*: 108****
>
> [image: elearninglogo300dpi2] <http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/>****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Butler, Ross
> *Sent:* 20 September 2012 10:28
> *To:* Xerte discussion list (xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte Upgrade****
>
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>
> Dear all,****
>
> ** **
>
> We are currently seeking to upgrade from an older version of Xerte (Online
> Toolkits) hosted on IIS to the latest version. We wish to maintain the
> existing database in order to preserve our existing content. Which config
> files would need to be modified after installing a fresh version of Xerte
> in order to hook it up to our existing database? I presume that once done,
> Xerte will pick up our LDAP settings from the database but would any
> additional configuration be required in order to re-enable LDAP
> authentication on this new install (we authenticate at present using our
> Active Directory server with Xerte)?****
>
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>
> Many thanks in advance for your assistance,****
>
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>
> Kind regards,****
>
> ** **
>
> Ross****
>
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