[Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte

Thu Sep 6 11:12:53 BST 2012

> I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else.
Yes.A thank you for all the time and effort you have expended on this transformation.It's too big an undertaking to not have some unforeseen issues, but they are minor in comparison to the functionality you have added.Thanks Johnathan!
Dave
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:00:56 +0100
From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte

What are the issues?
Based on email exchanges I had with Dave yesterday I would identify the following
1. Confusing methods of project creation

At present 2.18 offers 
file \ new (for a standard xerte project)pages \ create template project from pages (for a page templates project)
pages \ create new Pages Project (for a new pages type project)
templates \ page templates (for a page templates project - using different files than the pages menu option)
IMHO we need just
file \ new \ xerte developer project
                \ xerte developer project with page models                 \ xerte author project

and to removethe pageTemplates.xtp file from the install
the options that create projects from the pages menu
The descriptions to use in file \ new are debatable but I feel they need to make sense to both current Xerte users and XOT users who may want to take a look at Xerte. I am also aware of the potential for Xerte and XOT to separate off from each other as a result of the HTML 5 developments, hence the reference to author project rather than XOT style project. I have avoided the use of "page templates project" as this causes confusion with individual page template projects.

2. Two ways of generating the "page templates" type of project which access separate sets of resources. Developers who want to modify a page templates Project Template need to be sure which resources they need to be modifying.

3. Confusion over the Individual Page Templates because they can currently be added to a file / new created project which lacks the necessary support resources to enable them to function correctly. This has been compounded by a lack of a means of creating a "pages" project from the "file" menu. So Xerte users have followed a logical route of file / new followed by adding a page template that then fails to work through lack of resource. The Individual Page Templates need to be only offered to page type projects. The alternative of trying to add all the additional resources needed could get messy - but may be possible. The quickest solution is to disable the individual page templates when in an ordinary project.

4. Uncertainty resulting from recent discussions on this mail list to possible changes in the model files.
To the above I would add
5. A lack of documentation to support the creation of a pages project. This is not strictly true, there is a fairly comprehensive pdf guide in the Xerte \ help folder. As there are for a number of the new page templates, but there is no link to them from the Xerte help, so unless a user searches them out they experience a lack of available documentation.

6. A lack of documentation regarding how to create a new page template. This is my fault. I have been holding back as I am unsure of the implications of the new html 5 project and had planned to produce something that would follow through from the creation of a new page template to its installation in XOT.

7. A lack of documentation to explain the use of the new menu features such as Pages \ Install Page Template; Templates \ Create Project Template; Templates \ Install Project Template.

8. A lack of information regarding the new language features.
I don't know if Dave would want to add anything else.
Kind regards
Johnathan

On 6 September 2012 08:16, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

You can check ut the svn, revert it to a point in time, and then build from there.
 What are the issues?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett

Sent: 05 September 2012 12:34
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Archived versions of Xerte 
No one?

From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com

To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Archived versions of Xerte
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 04:57:13 -0400
Anyone have a 2.17 setup.exe handy?It looks like 2.18 still has some teething issues so I'd like to roll back.
 Cheers,
Dave 

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