[Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Sat Sep 1 11:42:28 BST 2012
At the moment the editor makes a distinction between an template based
project and a normal/page project by inspecting the extension. That's
why the pages are enabled when you create a project using File->new.
If there is an easy/other way to make the distinction between a page
project and a normal Xerte Project, (or if we change the extension of a
pages based project), I can disable the menu easily enough (there is a
function in the editor to toggle this on or off
Tom
Op 31-8-2012 16:53, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
> I haven't looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the
> editor to create scripts and add them in?
>
> When I get the chance I will try to put together a minimalist .rlo
> file so that we know what the bare minimum would be needed to add to
> an .rlo file.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 31 August 2012 15:37, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I haven't looked at the differences, but it would be easy for the
> editor to create scripts and add them in?
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 15:37
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop
>
> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the
> project automagically?
>
> The copying in of the relevant folders should not be problematic.
>
> The issue would be with the rlo file as you would need to make
> changes to that. A .rlo file with the bare minimum necessary for
> the models to work could be created, but would you want to replace
> the project's original .rlo file and risk losing code that might
> have been added to the original .rlo file?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 31 August 2012 14:42, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Oh, that's right, you need to instantiate the project as a project
> that uses pages.
>
> Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the
> project automagically?
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> <mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:41
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop
>
>
> 1. Pages -> Create new Page Project
> 2. Choose folder, and open new project
>
> Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a
> text page worked fine.)
>
> Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Same here.
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Dave Burnett
> *Sent:* 31 August 2012 14:07
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> *Subject:* [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop
>
> 2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m.
>
> File New
>
> Save
>
> Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling
>
> Open the Wizard? > No
>
> dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and
> has nothing attached)
>
> Preview (2 blank pages)
>
> Double click page and start wizard
>
> Select image
>
> Add 3 hotspots
>
> Preview (2 blank pages)
>
> debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100
> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question
>
> I am still using the beta.
>
> I will down load it and take a look.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com
> <mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >The new Xerte 2.18
>
> That's why it's problematic.
>
> That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m.
>
> According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100
>
>
> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte
> download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when
> unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained
> several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm
> and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte
> that has been retired.
>
> The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd
> that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model
> for each page. Look in
>
> Xerte \ pages \ models
>
> \ wizards \ en-GB
>
> to find them.
>
> Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had
> its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its
> data was enclosed in
>
> <learningObject> </learningObject> tags
>
> so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the
> xml to an object was "learningObject"
>
> All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data
> enclosed in <pageWizard> tags so the top level node in the
> object is "pageWizard"
>
> It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as
> long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement
> the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from
> using "learningObject" as that is what is used in
> pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a
> whole Xerte project and not just for one page.
>
> The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates
> (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is
> only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the
> pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own
> xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-)
>
> Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used
> in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the
> structure of the xml file differs between the single page for
> Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for
> all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project.
>
> The opening section of the rlm file
>
> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();
>
> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){
> // Page Wizard
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
> } else {
> // Toolkits
> myXML = new
> XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() -
> pgOffset]);
> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();
>
> }
>
> resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively
> strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the
> model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be
> identical for both environments.
>
> The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in
> the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not
> an issue at the time.
>
> What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code
> that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install
> to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT.
> Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead
> uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I
> think this parser looks for the <wizard> and <pageWizard> tags
> that are contained in the individual xwd files to help
> identify the relevant sections to include when building the
> template.xwd file.
>
> You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New
>
> However if you do so and then try using any of the existing
> model files you will run into a number of issues such as
> missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and
> some supporting code that is shared by several of the models
> e.g. narration support will not exist in your project.
>
> Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create
> New Page Project then all the items needed to support the
> models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes
> sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new
> page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that
> has some of the features you want in your page you can add
> extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml
> file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can
> modify the page's structure to consume the new data.
>
> By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages
> you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT
> if you wish to do that.
>
> I hope that is a bit clearer.
>
> KInd regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com
> <mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Johnathan.
>
> I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the
> drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter.
>
> so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just
>
> pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject();
>
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0];
>
>
> to get the data loaded.
>
> Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard
>
> I thought you had deprecated pageWizard.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100
> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question
>
> You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard.
>
> The new model files use
>
> pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();
>
> if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){
> // Page Wizard
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
> } else {
> // Toolkits
> myXML = new
> XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() -
> pgOffset]);
> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();
>
> }
>
> A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets
>
> rootIcon.projMode = "dev";
>
> This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop
> Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which
> enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT.
> The idea being that people will be able to develop new page
> types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment.
>
> Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the
> creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same
> steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com
> <mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and
> all!).
>
> I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline.
>
> Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need
> to get test data into it.
>
> So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file.
>
> In the first script icon of the .rlm we have:
>
> if (extXML == undefined){
>
> // Page Wizard
>
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();
>
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
>
> Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined,
> won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined?
>
> What I need to do obviously is get data into
> pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
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