[Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start

[Kemp Johnathan]

Hello Branislav,

If you look at your project folder it should contain pages.xwd, pages.rlo,
pages.xml

Looking at the first image you attached, the one with the zinc error
message I can see that your project looks like it has been created by doing
"pages / create new page project" because the project includes the script
"capture display values" directly under the learning object icon. Also the
learning object icon has the little circle on it that indicates that the
icon has an associated wizard form.

However I also notice that at the top of your image the project .rlo file
name is listed as Test.rlo

When you create a project using "pages / create new page project" you are
not given the opportunity to specify a name for the .rlo file. You select
which folder you wish to create your project in and then Xerte
automatically creates the files pages.xwd, pages.rlo and pages.xml. So I
don't know how you have ended up with a .rlo file called test.rlo unless
you have renamed the original pages.rlo. This should not cause a problem
unless you rename either pages.xml or pages.xwd. If you select the learning
object you will see it has an attribute "templateData" which by default
points to

FileLocation + 'pages.xml'

As long as the xml and xwd files have the same name and the templateData
attribute refers correctly to the name of the xml file everything should
work OK.

To access the advanced layout settings and the name attribute for the
learning object you need to double click on the learning object icon,
*not*on one of the pages in the project. Your second image confirms
that you
have opened the wizard for the orientation page. Try instead clicking on
the top most icon in your project tree called "learning object".

I am sorry I don't know enough about zinc to comment on the error you are
getting. You should not be getting it. Tom or Julian may be better able to
advise on that particular issue.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 8 October 2012 08:10, Branislav Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>wrote:

> On double clik i get an error window:
>
>
>
>
>
> After several cliks on No I get wizard window but I can't see mentioned
> attribute.
>
>
>
>
>
> Pages folder has two files:
>
> bullets.xml and bullets.xwd.
>
> Which files has to has "Learning Object Title" variable in it.
>
> I can't find it. I also don't see "Advance Display" option.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 10:22 PM
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> In a pages project the Learning Object has its own wizard.
>
>
>
> If you double click the Learning Object icon in the Xerte editor, the
> Learning Object wizard form will open.
>
>
>
> The first attribute in the Learning Object wizard is Learning Object Title
> which by default is set in the English Language version to "Learning Object
> Title" but you can change it in the form.
>
>
>
> The model files for each page have a line in their "getPageID" script
>
>
>
> rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
>
>
>
> This line captures the Learning Object title entry entered into the wizard
> and ensures it is displayed when the page is opened.
>
>
>
> If you are also creating your own pages in the project that are not based
> on existing page types then you would need to include the above line of
> code to ensure that the learning object title you entered into the learning
> object wizard is displayed when your own pages load.
>
>
>
> The Learning Object wizard in a Pages project also has a child form of
> "Advance Display" which will allow you to change some of the default
> display settings such as the position of buttons, the colours used and the
> size of some of the sections of the layout, as well as to add a background
> image should you so choose.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps to resolve your issue.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 5 October 2012 07:38, Branislav Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> Your suggestion was correct medicine for my problems.
>
> Now I can view the results of my work.
>
> File/New is usual way to start project and I used it.
>
>
>
> Another problem:
>
> I titled interface and all pages created without wizard show the correct
> title "Moj modul".
>
> Pages created with wizard don't do that. I view only text "Learning Object
> Title".
>
> This applies for preview and publish mode.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Branislav SMITEK Ph.D.
> University of Maribor
> FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES
> Kidriceva cesta 55/a
> SI4000 KRANJ
> SLOVENIA
>
> tel: +386 4 237 42 63
> fax: +386 4 237 42 99
> e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 AM
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> I have taken a quick look at your project and I think some of the problem
> lies in how the project was created.
>
>
>
> At present in Xerte you can do
>
>
>
> *File / New*
>
>
>
> To create a project. This creates an ordinary Xerte project of the type
> that pre-dates the use of the "pages" feature. The .rlo file created is
> given the name you choose for it. The project does not include the "common"
> folder or any additional code that the page models need. Also there is a
> flag that tells the page models that they are not in Xerte Online toolkits
> project, which is not included in this type of project so the page models
> fail to work correctly.
>
>
>
> If instead you create a project by doing
>
>
>
> *Pages / Create New Pages Project*
>
>
>
> Then Xerte should create a "pages" type project and will copy the common
> folder into the project folder. In addition the .rlo file will be called
> pages.rlo and there will also be files pages.xwd and pages.xml
>
>
>
> The pages.rlo file includes extra code to support some features that the
> page models share. If you create your project this way then all the page
> models should work.
>
>
>
> This is something that another Xerte user has experienced. The issue of
> reviewing the options provided by Xerte for creation of projects is likely
> to be discussed at the AGM next week so that this confusion can be avoided
> in future.
>
>
>
> Hope this solves your problem.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 4 October 2012 07:38, Branislav Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> I tried to do a new project and I was unable to find common folder inside
> project folder and files.
>
> I copied files from C:\Program Files\Xerte\pages\common to my folder
> T:\Izobraževanje\Xerte\OPP\01_Test.
>
> Is problem in using slovenian character in folder name or something else?
>
> I'm sending you zip file with my project. I made project with File/New.
>
> For video page I used Pages/Media/Video. The wizard started I input all
> data and clicked Save (Wizard didn't close. Is this kind of work o.k.?)
>
> Why Xerte during publishing process doesn't copy all needed files to
> project folders. The same problem is with Languages folder in files inside
> it.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:01 PM
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> The common folder is located in the root of your project folder. It should
> contain a lot of resource files such as  .swf and .png files that are used
> by the various page types. If these are not there then any page that cannot
> find a .swf file that it uses, for example panel.swf, will fail to preview.
>
>
>
> If you are using a pages project and are completing the wizard form then
> there is little that you can do wrong that would cause the page not to
> preview.
>
>
>
> It is worth checking that the project's common folder has all these files
> in it.
>
>
>
> If it does not you can try copying them to your project folder from your
> Xerte installation folder they are found typically in
>
>
>
> C:\xerte\pages\common
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 3 October 2012 12:47, Branislav Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> We solved problem with starting simple RLO.
>
> Now I trying to do more complex project but I have problem with Xerte in
> common.
>
> I can use text and image icon.
>
> When I try to use other icons (movie for example) I don't get any result
> in preview window.
>
> I use Pages/Media/Video wizard, I anter all the data, try play but there
> is no result in preview window.
>
> I read the XerteGettingStarted but i still have problems.
>
> Is there any more detailed user guide on the internet?
>
> I thaught that I had enough knowledge to use the program but it is not so.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 10:45 AM
>
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> Are there any files in <Ueer Dir>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
> Files\Xerte ?
>
> Quickest and best way to localize the user interface of the runtime engine
> is to create a new entry in language-config.xml, copy the english files to
> the files you mentioned in the entry you added and translate all the
> attributes in the XML file.
>
> To localize the wizard and the fill in screens of the templates, you best
> use the xertertrans website. It is not production ready yet. This month we
> will publish a community website with all relevant information on how to
> localise xerte. It would be best if you can wait for that!
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 10:26, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> 32 bit, English.
>
> I used Publish and Package variant.
>
> Installation folder has Languages files.
>
> Publish also created Languages folder but there wasn't  file
> engine_en-GB.xml.
>
> Maybe I made mistake changing language option in Xerte?
>
> Question? I would like to localize user interface into Slovenian language.
>
> Which way you suggest?
>
>
>
>
>
> 32bit? 64bit? English? Slovenian?
>
> I tested the latest Xerte 2.18 from the Nottingham Xerte website and
> installed it on a 64 bit Dutch Windows 7 PC.
>
> The languages folder is copied when packaging/publishing the learning
> object.
> I tried:
>
> 1. Publish from the wizard (in a template (.rlt) project)
>     Package from the wizard
>     Publish from the Xerte editor
>
> All methods that I tried correctly created a languages folder for me.
>
> Can you specify how you try to publish your Learning object?
>
> Can you try to install xerte as an administrator, i.e. right-click the
> setup and choose  'Run as administrator'?
>
> I suspect that some of the files of the languages folder actually ended up
> in the windows 7 Virtual Files store in stead of in the Program Files
> folder.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 9:37, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> Windows 7.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Can I ask what OS you are using?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 9:14, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> Yes, bug discovered by you is the main problem.
>
> During todays testing I also with debugger help discovered the same
> solution.
>
> I found missing file in directory you mentioned.
>
> I also find out that I can localize file and I get slovenian text in user
> interface buttons.
>
> It seems that Xerte during creating empty project didn't copy all needed
> files
>
> for correct final version. I also discovered the problem with our
> characters in
>
> top level module page. They caused xml error at loading SCORM in Moodle.
>
> Now I can test the different modules in LMS environment.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> I see, that you managed to create a test for all 3 kinds of projects. I
> found the bug, and make sure it gets fixed a.s.a.p.
>
> In the meantime, you can check for yourself:
>
> In the resulting folders there is a folder called languages, however, it
> doesn't contain the correct files.
>
> 1. Can yopu please check whether the languages folder of your xerte
> insallation (c:\Program Files\xerte\languages or c:\Program Files
> (x86)\xerte\languages) conatins more than 1 file. If so, copy those to the
> languages folder of your learning object, and let me know if they now work
> correctly.
>
> 2. If the files are not there, let me know as well.
>
> This will help me greatly in fixing this issue a.s.a.p.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 1-10-2012 6:54, Branislav Šmitek schreef:
>
> I'm sending you ZIP with three modules I have done with Xerte.
>
> For all three modules the preview is fine but I can't start them in
> browser.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you mind posting one of the modules so we can have a look?
>
>
> Op 30-9-2012 17:47, Brane Šmitek schreef:
>
> I'm using Xerte (2.18) desktop program.
>
>
>
> I tried all three suggested methods to  create three test modules.
>
> Modules are without any content. Names of the objects are default names.
>
> There is no content in modules, empty page.
>
> Preview is o.k. but when I publish module and start index.html file
>
> the result is the same that I described in beginning of the question.
>
> I can record screen that you will see my way of the work.
>
>
>
> So far I have used Courselab to made an electronic learning materials.
>
> I'm ausing Courselab also in educational proces with students.
>
> I have to pay for new version of Courselab but i don't have any financial
> resources for that.
>
> The old (free) version of mentioned program produce only IE compatible
> learning materials.
>
> Xerte seems appropriate software for producing teaching materials and
> would like to use it.
>
> I would like to test the Xerte in a Moodle in real life. Which version of
> Xerte (desktop or Online)
>
> do you recommend me. I would rather use the desktop version because I do
> not have the
>
> server. I encountered the problems that I would like to resolve before I
> start with work.
>
> I would like that Xerte will also use students for producing their
> electronic learning modules.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:33 AM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> You mention Xerte rather than Xerte Online Toolkits, so I am assuming you
> are using the desktop Xerte program.
>
>
>
> What version of Xerte are you using?
>
>
>
> What steps did you take to create your project?
>
> e.g. "file / new"
>
> or
>
> "templates / page templates"
>
> or
>
> "pages / create new pages project"
>
>
>
> Are you able to view your project in Xerte by doing "view / preview"?
>
>
>
> The following suggestions will apply if your project was created using
> either "templates / page templates" or "pages / create new pages project".
>
>
>
> Your pages will have forms that you can open which you use to enter the
> information that the pages will dispay. Have you included in your
> information any none alphabetic characters such as "#" ?
>
>
>
> One other thought. I noticed you are in Slovenia. I am wondering if there
> might possibly be any characters in your alphabet that are causing a
> problem for Xerte by breaking the xml.
>
>
>
> Try this test.
>
> Create a new project in Xerte using the same method that you used for you
> current project that is not displaying.
>
> Add each of the two pages that your original project has but do not change
> any of the default data that the pages start with.
>
> Do "View / Preview" - does your project display correctly?
>
>
>
> If should display correctly as at this point everything is still just
> standard Xerte stuff.
>
>
>
> Now add each element of data to each page and test each page by previewing
> it after adding each element of data.
>
> You may find that it is a particular data element that is causing the
> problem. This process should help you to identify what if anything is
> compromising your xml data.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 September 2012 16:19, Brane Šmitek <brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si>
> wrote:
>
> No. I have the same problem running it localy.
>
> Browser (I tried IE, FF, Chrome) starts with mentioned screen.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> Does it work when you run it locally?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Branislav Šmitek
> *Sent:* 27 September 2012 12:41
> *To:* xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Learning object does not start
>
>
>
> I did small learning module (two pages) in Xerte.
>
> I tried to run it. Module starts and stands with a screen that says: "xml
> Loading."
>
> What did I do wrong? The same situation is when I loaded SCORM package in
> Moodle.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Branislav SMITEK Ph.D.
> University of Maribor
> FACULTY OF ORGANIZATIONAL SCIENCES
> Kidriceva cesta 55/a
> SI4000 KRANJ
> SLOVENIA
>
> tel: +386 4 237 42 63
> fax: +386 4 237 42 99
> e-mail: brane.smitek at fov.uni-mb.si
>
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