[Xerte] Re: Scorm Trackable question types within Xerte OnlineToolkits

Thu Nov 22 10:48:07 GMT 2012

You're thinking in terms of complex learning objects, but if you keep a
single activity in mind, you could have, for example, an auto-graded
dictation activity with a score sent to moodle's gradebook when the exercise
is taken by the student. I hope (but I'm not a developer), that we could one
day have a set of assessment pages in XOT
Franck

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Julian Tenney
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OnlineToolkits

>the results are all added together for the whole learning object to 
>give a final. Obviously for this to work well there would need to be an 
>option for adding parameters e.g. if they don't get correct first time 
>reduce score by a certain percentage - otherwise they would eventually 
>get the answer correct and that wouldn't give meaningful data. Also you 
>may want a weighting option for questions, and options for negative 
>marking

This is part of the problem: everyone would have a different take on how to
do this, whether to average the scores, or weight them, or negatively mark
incorrect answers, or add them together, or take the highest, or take the
most recent, or...  you see the problem. When there is one score per LO it's
easy: there's not really many ways of recording it, but when you are
tracking individual items, then it becomes more difficult.

What does moodle let you see in terms of data? Would it give you a report on
objectives / interactions if we tracked them, or not, cos if you can't get
the data out, there's no point putting it in,

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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Scorm Trackable question types within Xerte
OnlineToolkits

Thanks to everyone for the responses to my question. I am working with
Moodle as the VLE, and am trying to promote Xerte as a weapon of choice over
other commercial alternatives, and as an addition to the Moodle Quiz, which
although I like, it doesn't have the full range of graphical type
interactions that Xerte has.

So for example the hotspot activities, or the drag and drop activities - it
would be great if these could give a trackable score - even if the results
are all added together for the whole learning object to give a final.
Obviously for this to work well there would need to be an option for adding
parameters e.g. if they don't get correct first time reduce score by a
certain percentage - otherwise they would eventually get the answer correct
and that wouldn't give meaningful data. Also you may want a weighting option
for questions, and options for negative marking.

I don't know if this sort of thing would be beneficial to other members of
the community or whether my interest is very unique.

Thanks again

Dave Foord
A6 Training & Consultancy Ltd
07922115678
WWW.A6training.co.uk

On Wed 21/11/12 18:43 , Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:

> It is indeed my intention to add much more SCORM tracking to XOT. But 
> that won't happen this year. I simply don't have the time at the 
> moment.
> Also a problem with SCORM, is that each LMS wants to see different 
> things filled in the data store, and some want SCORM2004, and some 
> still adhere to the 1.2 standard.
> But, I am always interested to learn what you would like to track, and 
> how you would do that as an author.
> I've got a variant of quiz in the making (that will happen this year), 
> that tracks a lot more in the quiz (like the answers given by the
> learner) and this page also enable a kind of review overview, IF the
> 
> SCORM player supports 'review' mode.
> Tom
> Op 21-11-2012 17:39, Julian Tenney schreef:
> >> Is there any likelihood in the future of other interaction types
> could have scorm trackability?
> > Tom knows a lot about SCORM as well, he might have some greater
> wisdom. If you are only writing one score back for the whole LO, then 
> I don't see why any particular page couldn't do that, but you would be 
> limited to only one page in the LO writing to the database...
> >
> > At the moment, it's simple, and the score for the quiz is tracked
> against the LO's score. We don't track against the SCORM's objectives 
> / interactions. The trouble isn't so much 'is this possible?', but 
> more 'how should it be done?' because to make the tracking more 
> granular would mean somehow tracking against the more granular parts 
> (objectives, or interactions) of the SCORM, and that would mean 
> somehow breaking the content up into objectives / interactions to 
> track against, and that is a much more difficult undertaking than 
> simply tracking one score / complete status against the LO itself 
> (obviously). How would an author define objectives / interactions, and 
> then assign interactions to them? Or if it could be automated, how 
> would it be done? And what LMS are you using that allows you to 
> actually get a report on tracking that's more granular than a single 
> score for an LO - if you can't get the data out, there's no point 
> putting it in?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [] On Behalf Of
> dave at a6training.co.uk
> > Sent: 21 November 2012 16:12
> > To: Xerte discussion list
> > Subject: [Xerte] Scorm Trackable question types within Xerte
> Online Toolkits
> >
> > Hi all. I have been looking at the scorm tracking of Xerte Online
> Toolkit objects within Moodle, and looking through previous comments 
> on this list am I right in thinking that the only interaction type 
> that can be scorm trackable is the quiz option?
> >
> > Is there any likelihood in the future of other interaction types
> could have scorm trackability?
> >
> > Some discussions suggested that trackability could be built into
> other object types but I wasn't sure if this referred to XOT or the 
> desktop version.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dave Foord
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