[Xerte] Re: importing models into xertes toolkit...

[Kemp Johnathan]

The easiest way to change the node names is to open the file in Flash
Develop and do a search and replace.

I usually create a new page by starting with an existing page type that
does something similar to what I want the new page to do.

This will be even easier in the next release of Xerte.

The next release of desktop Xerte will feature "pages" projects. These
allow you to have access to every page type that is available in page
templates projects (or XOT projects) but with full access to the page
structure and the xwd form.

You will be able to create  a page in a project using an existing page type
and then edit the xwd form for that page to change the xml attributes
available to the page. You then edit the page structure to consume those
new attributes and to present them how you want them presented to the end
user.

Once you have the page working you can save the model for the page.

Finally you load both the xwd and the new model for the page into Flash
develop and use search and replace to change the node names and you are
pretty much there with a brand new page.

You'll love it :-)

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 30 July 2012 20:01, Cowell, Elizabeth <E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk> wrote:

>  thanks so much for your help both. I came across exactly the prob you
> said as I had indeed developed the quiz page and used the same node names
> and was busily trying to change them to incorporate into the template as
> suggested. Live and learn... Thanks again. I would like the attend the
> conference/meet in October too.  are the details on your site somewhere?
>
>  Thanks so much
>
>  Liz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Jul 2012, at 17:35, "Kemp Johnathan" <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Just a couple of comments to add to Julian's example.
>
>  Since your page is trying to do something similar to the quiz page you
> can use the code in templates.xwd for the quiz page as a starting point for
> your page, you can copy it but - When you develop a new page type it is a
> good idea to use unique object names.
>
>  Since the quiz page uses objects named "quiz", "question", "option" you
> should change these e.g. likertQuiz, likertQuestion, likertOption. That way
> your page will not clash with the current quiz page. This will be
> significant when the next version of Xerte / XOT is released as each page
> has its own unique .xwd file and the aggregated data.xwd or templates.xwd
> file used by XOT or a pageTemplates project will be built from these
> individual xwd files.
>
>  I think below Julian may have intended the section under <!-- LIKERT
> QUIZ ------------------------------>
> to have started
>
> <!—LIKERT QUIZ--------------------------------------------->
>
>   <likert menu="Interactivity" menuItem="Likert Scale"
> icon="icPageWhiteGear" remove="true" thumb="thumbs/likert.jpg" hint="info
> on likert here">
>
>     <name type="textInput" label="Likert Title"/>
>
>
>
>     <newNodes>
>
>       <likertStatement><![CDATA[<likertStatement statement="Here is a
> statement"/>]]></likertStatement>
>
>     </newNodes>
>
>
>
>   </likert>
>
>  The <likertStatement section should also end with
>
>  </likertStatement>  and not </question>
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Johnathan
>
> On 30 July 2012 15:39, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:
>
>>  Good idea. So you want to be able to add pages to your main page,
>> questions to your pages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe build a single page likert quiz where you can add just questions to
>> start with. If you want multi-page likert quizzes, just build new ones on a
>> new page, that would make it easy for now.
>>
>>
>>
>> So in the LO newNodes bit in the .xwd
>>
>>
>>
>> <likert><!CDATA[<likert name=”Enter Page Name” text=”Instructions
>> here”/>]]</likert>
>>
>>
>>
>> Then later on
>>
>>
>>
>> <!—LIKERT QUIZ--------------------------------------------->
>>
>>   <quiz menu="Interactivity" menuItem="Likert Scale"
>> icon="icPageWhiteGear" remove="true" thumb="thumbs/likert.jpg" hint="info
>> on likert here">
>>
>>     <name type="textInput" label="Likert Title"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <newNodes>
>>
>>       <likertStatement><![CDATA[<likertStatement statement="Here is a
>> statement"/>]]></likertStatement>
>>
>>     </newNodes>
>>
>>
>>
>>   </quiz>
>>
>>
>>
>> You also need to define the form for a likertStatement – but that’s easy…
>>
>>
>>
>>   <likertStatement menuItem="Statement" icon="icPageWhite" remove="true">
>>
>>
>>
>>     <statement type="TextField" label="Statement"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>    <newNodes>
>>
>>       <option><![CDATA[<option text="here is an option"
>> feedback="feedback for this option" correct="false"/>]]></option>
>>
>>     </newNodes>
>>
>>
>>
>>   </question>
>>
>>
>>
>> Then you can build a skinny likert.rlm, and start getting at the data the
>> same way other pages do (refer to some simple ones). You should be able to
>> add statements to the questionnaire, and see them in the data too: then
>> start on the basic interaction, you’ll need to duplicate a protoStatement
>> the right number of times.
>>
>>
>>
>> That should get you going. One obvious question is how to handle the user
>> feedback?
>>
>>
>>
>> Then think about more options, like how many options to present the user:
>> can the author set the scale? Other stuff like that?
>>
>>
>>
>> 10th and 11th October we are running a xerte event here at Nottingham –
>> come along,
>>
>>
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Cowell, Elizabeth
>> *Sent:* 30 July 2012 14:46
>>
>> *To:* Xerte discussion list
>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: importing models into xertes toolkit...
>>
>>
>>
>> What I was trying to do was a multi page questionnaire, with a likert
>> rating for each question.
>>
>>
>>
>> So a framework in which you define a series of question sets, one per
>> page,  each containing a series of questions for each page,  with five
>> radio buttons per question. Its so I could use it to put together skills
>> audits and other questionairres and ideally extend it to put in a bar chart
>> at the end…
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m still learning about xertes though, so maybe I need to do a simple
>> model first then, and then extend it to this multi-page one?
>>
>>
>>
>> I also had a problem with the buttons seemingly returning the wrong
>> parent index when it was
>>
>>
>>
>> a)      The last radio button of the last question on a page the  index
>> of it’s parent node (the question number) is decremented by one too many
>>
>> b)      The last radio button of each set of five gives a parent node
>> incremented by one..
>>
>>
>>
>> I just thought I’d mention this in case it was a known bug in xertes 2. I
>> basically modified the simple quiz example, and duplicated five radio
>> buttons per question, so know idea why only the last ones are returning bad
>> indexes when the code is identical…
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your advice, I will scale down to a simple example and start
>> from there…
>>
>>
>>
>> Liz Cowell
>>
>> Learning and Skills Librarian
>>
>> Learning & Information Services
>> University of Wolverhampton
>> Tel: 01902 322385
>> Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
>> *Sent:* 30 July 2012 13:40
>> *To:* Xerte discussion list
>> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: importing models into xertes toolkit...
>>
>>
>>
>> I always do it this way:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Modify the .xwd to know about the model. There are two things to do:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      The part in <learningObject><newNodes> that defines the payload
>> you want inserting into the LO, i.e.
>>
>> <text><![CDATA[<text name="Enter Page Title">Enter text for the page
>> here</text>]]></text>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)      the information that defines the form for that model. Each moel
>> has it’s own section, i.e.
>>
>> <!--TEXT PAGE------------------------------------------------------->
>>
>>   <text type="text" label="Page Text" height="380" menu="Text"
>> menuItem="Plain Text" icon="icPageWhiteText" remove="true"
>> thumb="thumbs/plaintext.jpg" hint="A plain and simple text page.">
>>
>>
>>
>>     <name type="TextInput" label="Page Title"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <textWidth type="comboBox" label="Text Width"
>> options="Small,Medium,Large,Full" data="300,450,600,760" defaultValue="300"
>> width="100" optional="true"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <subSuper type="CheckBox" label="Superscript Support" optional=
>> "true" default="false"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <narrationNavigate type="CheckBox" label="Navigate on narration"
>> optional="true"/>
>>
>>     <playNarration type="CheckBox" label="Auto-play narration"
>> optional="true"/>
>>
>>     <narration type="media" label="Narration" optional="true"/>
>>
>>
>>
>>   </text>
>>
>>
>>
>> Then you can insert it from the insert menu, and the text model is added
>> to the learningobejct in the right place.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then develop your model so you are getting the data from the wizard,
>> start simply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then as you develop the logic, you can develop the wizard to provide the
>> right information.
>>
>>
>>
>> What does your model do?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Cowell,
>> Elizabeth
>> *Sent:* 30 July 2012 13:03
>> *To:* Xerte discussion list
>> *Subject:* [Xerte] importing models into xertes toolkit...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve developed a multipage questionnaire, and have saved it as a model. I
>> can import it using  the “insert model” option, but I want to be able to
>> insert it like the other models, when you run the online toolkits template
>> wizard – ie where it says +Insert, I want my model to appear and be usable.
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw the template.xwd referred to the models for insert , and managed to
>> hack mine in place of the quiz one, but it doesn’t really work. I can see I
>> somehow have to put the definitions from the initial xml/xwd files into the
>> template.xwd/xml or ensure it’s in the rlm but I don’t really know where..
>> On peeking into the other rlms it appears the other models have additional
>> startup scripting which determines where they are being called from, which
>> is not explained anywhere that I can find.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any in-depth guidance on this, or how you integrate anything you
>> build into the toolkit so that it can be used easily by other people in my
>> team? I want them to be able to use xertes and add either the standard
>> things like quizzes etc or add my model??
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I cannot find out what the file Templates options does. It creates
>> a template, but an xtp rather than an rlt ? not sure what the difference
>> is?.
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel like I have missed out on some documentation somewhere? Any help /
>> direction much appreciated, as it seems like a big leap from simply running
>> through the startup guide on a quiz to getting a fuller integrated solution
>> which adds the models we want to xertes…  I can do action script and
>> programming etc, but feel like I am having to work backwards from the
>> examples given to work out how to do things and I am not sure I am getting
>> it right..
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help much much appreciated, seem to have spent a while on this and am
>> on verge of giving up now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Liz Cowell
>>
>> Learning and Skills Librarian
>>
>> Learning & Information Services
>> University of Wolverhampton
>> Tel: 01902 322385
>> Email: E.Cowell at wlv.ac.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
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