[Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs

Tue Jul 24 14:19:09 BST 2012

Yes, probably a good idea,

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 24 July 2012 14:19
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs

Shall we move any further discussion about this to the dev list?

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 24 July 2012 13:55
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs

It spits out an rlt, yes,

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 24 July 2012 13:55
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs

yes, it should do, and it does have checks, but they aren't working for some
reason.

Oh I bet I know why - did we change the export code to export to an RLT and
not an RLO?

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> OK, if I do
>
> - export a LO
> - unzip it into a new folder
> - zip up that folder (right click on the folder, send to zip)
> - import
>
> All goes OK, and it says import successful. The LO appears in my
workspace. But I can't edit it or preview it.
>
> So the code that checks for a valid zip file isn't working correctly.
>
> I take the point that this is a bit like complaining you've burned
> your hand after poking it in the fire, but I can see this being a
> mistake people would make, and we ought to bomb out of the import if
> we find a zipped up folder (i.e. .rlt isn't in the root of the zip)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 24 July 2012 13:46
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>
> What message did you get when you imported it?
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I just exported an LO, unzipped it, re-zipped and imported it. No problem
I could see?
>>
>> Am I missing the point somewhere?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>> Tenney
>> Sent: 24 July 2012 13:22
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>
>> I didn't think I fixed it. Anyway.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 24 July 2012 12:43
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>
>> You didn't, Julian did, when Julian said nice once, I replied to that
>> email saying he'd fixed it
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:
>>> I don't recall testing or working on that myself. We did work on the
>>> message upon deletion of a project or folder and fixed that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 12:27
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>
>>> Well as far as I am aware we made a successful import display the
>>> correct message last week?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ron Mitchell
>>> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> But my screenshot was from the techdis install which has all the
>>>> latest svn code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>>>> Tenney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 12:06
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice one,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 12:06
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the SVN has been updated to fix the rogue html issue
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ron Mitchell
>>>> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok
>>>>
>>>> when trying to import a zip which contains a parent folder
>>>>
>>>> both 1.8 and 1.7 result in a message about trying to unzip a folder
name.
>>>> Both result in a project appearing in the workspace but can't be
>>>> previewed or edited.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Error! Filename not specified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW
>>>>
>>>> when importing a zip without a parent folder both work ok but also
>>>> give a message with rogue html
>>>>
>>>> Error! Filename not specified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>>
>>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 11:20
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know, but that's what I wanted some one to test as it
>>>> sounded like when Simon imported a zip made in that way it wasn't
>>>> trapped by the import code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Ron Mitchell
>>>> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> that doesn't work and never has as far as I'm aware.
>>>>
>>>>> When you export from XOT or package from xerte it doesn't create a
>>>>> zip
>>>>
>>>>> with a parent folder inside it so this only really happens when
>>>>> people
>>>>
>>>>> zip manually and select the folder rather than the folder contents.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>> Lockley
>>>>
>>>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 11:01
>>>>
>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what happens if the root of the zip is a folder (which is what i
>>>>> think
>>>>
>>>>> Simon was suggesting)?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ron Mitchell
>>>>
>>>>> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what you want tested Pat?
>>>>
>>>>>> Import works in 1.8 and 1.7 just fine as far as I can tell - as
>>>>>> long
>>>>
>>>>>> as the rlt and xml files are in the root of the zip.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>
>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: 24 July 2012 09:48
>>>>
>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> hmmmm, but if the importer doesn't find an RLO it should fail
>>>>>> (and it
>>>>
>>>>>> won't go looking in a subfolder)
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Can some one test this?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Simon Wood
>>>>>> <WoodSN2 at cardiff.ac.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Aha!
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Ron.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> I had tried both ways with OSX's built in zipper. But either way
>>>>
>>>>>>> produced
>>>>
>>>>>> the same result.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Following your email I thought: I'll give it a try dropping all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>> files
>>>>
>>>>>> (not in a folder) onto Yemu.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> It works!
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously OSX tried to be "clever" and automatically added an
>>>>
>>>>>>> enclosing
>>>>
>>>>>> folder.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> THANK YOU!
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2012, at 19:43, Ron Mitchell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you selecting the parent folder when zipping on the
>>>>>>>> contents of
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the folder? Your learningobject.rlt and associated files needs
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> be inside the root of the zip not inside a folder e.g. you need
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> \learningobject.rlt
>>>>
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>
>>>>>>>> \Making_multimedia_interactive_with_Xerte\learningobject.rlt
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wood
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: 20 July 2012 14:41
>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julian sent me the one he used (thanks Julian); it imports fine
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>>>>> our XOT install, think it may therefore be something to do with
>>>>
>>>>>>>> zipping software I'm using rather than our XOT install...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20 Jul 2012, at 14:16, Julian Tenney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tried that with the beta code for 1.8 and it works OK.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wood
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 20 July 2012 14:13
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Importing re-zipped LOs
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whilst I can import LOs into our XOT install now (thanks to
>>>>>>>>> Pat's
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tireless
>>>>
>>>>>>>> efforts) I am encountering a problem with "re-zipped" LOs.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I import a LO that I previously exported, no problem.
>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>
>>>>>>>> unzip that LO and then rezip it, it appears to import but when
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>>>>> try to preview or edit it, it is "empty". On the server the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> data.xml file is missing an the preview.xml file is 0B.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've tried using the zip built into OS X 10.6, and YemuZip
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>>>>> produce a "PC Zip" ie clean of OS X resource forks. Neither work.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anyone else having problem importing re-zipped learning
objects?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>
>>>>>>>> reason I ask is because I was sent to LOs zipped together and
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> import them I need to split them out.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - -
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Simon Wood
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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