[Xerte] Re: scorm or not?

[Pat Lockley]

The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields.

As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open
content tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in
too, if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some ways
> because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import it elsewhere
> as scorm you can’t.
>
>
>
> Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL of the
> piece in toolkits. No need to export it.
>
> You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the learning, in a
> ‘view this piece then take this quiz’ approach.
>
>
>
> If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into Blackboard,
> the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get a quiz score.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam
> Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not?
>
>
>
> Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I’m still not
> totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I’m not using
> the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is no longer relevant
> to my question.)
>
>
>
> I want to track students’ usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the results of
> quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to export the LOs as
> ‘Scorm Export’ and then upload them into Blackboard to achieve this?
>
>
>
> Also, what is meant by the ‘richer SCORM metadata’ that comes with the
> ‘SCORM + metadata export’? What effect would/could that have within
> Blackboard?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Oli
>
>
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>
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>
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
> Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54
> To: Xerte list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
> installation
>
>
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>
> That is correct.
>
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>
>
>> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can upload them
>> into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to track how/if students
>> have used the LOs. And it allows results from quizzes etc. to be interpreted
>> by the LMS.
>>
>> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Oli
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
>> Oliver Haslam
>> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>
>> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> University of the West of England
>> _______________________________
>> T: 0117 32 88215
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be even
>> better...
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can now
>> create and play LOs on our installation of XOT. Importing/exporting of LOs
>> works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't work as 'scorm export'.
>>
>> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile transfer
>> has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported."
>>
>> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would be even
>> better...
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Oli
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
>> Oliver Haslam
>> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>
>> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> University of the West of England
>> _______________________________
>> T: 0117 32 88215
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17
>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject line ;-)
>>
>> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental step/requirement that
>> creating and viewing an LO works before trying things like exporting and
>> importing. Clearly something isn't right with your install and if you don't
>> have access to the server yourself you may need to get whoever does to
>> subscribe and post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional
>> suggestions but my list would be...
>>
>> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the
>> site_details table in the database especially that the various paths are
>> correct Check the permissions are correct
>>
>> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying exporting and
>> importing Once that works try exporting and importing from the same install
>> before trying to import a sandpit created lo Finally try the sandpit import
>> and post further questions if everything but that works
>>
>> HTH
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The folder
>> should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the server?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam
>> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to the
>> wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these support lists
>> work and I think I have been mixing up two or more XOT problems into the
>> same email help request. So thanks for all the help so far and for bearing
>> with me!
>>
>> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have kept only
>> for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is and export issue at
>> all but there's obviously an issue with our new installation of XOT: I've
>> made a test LO but when I try to play it I get this message: "ERROR: The
>> file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>>
>> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on any advice
>> received to those that do.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Oli
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
>> Oliver Haslam
>> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>
>> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> University of the West of England
>> _______________________________
>> T: 0117 32 88215
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000
>> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> own XOT installation
>> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent replies
>> hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic.
>>
>> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would comment/add as
>> follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't currently
>> work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export. That will be
>> fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in a way irrelevant at
>> the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit and
>> import back into the sandpit ok too.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO on your
>> new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to import that back into
>> the same installation. Does that work without the same errors? If it doesn't
>> then you need to resolve the issue with your installation and this is
>> separate from any issues with the sandpit.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported from
>> the sandpit so we can test and provide further help.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>> McNaught
>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> installation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in here so
>> any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here to pick up the
>> answers.
>>
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
>> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Oliver Haslam
>> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT installation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to transfer the
>> LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of XOT. But I'm having a few
>> problems. Any help would be very gratefully received!
>>
>>
>>
>> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export" without
>> any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own version of XOT okay but
>> when I try to play the newly imported LO I get an error message saying
>> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see if that
>> works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or as a "SCORM +
>> metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the sandpit and taken to the
>> login page: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try to import
>> the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload checkFile transfer
>> has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported." And can go no
>> further.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly? But it
>> seems the sandpit is not happy either...
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Oli
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> Oliver Haslam
>>
>> Course Developer (Technologist)
>>
>> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>
>>
>>
>> Technology Enhanced Learning
>>
>> University of the West of England
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
>> T: 0117 32 88215
>>
>>
>>
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