[Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney)

Thu Feb 9 15:07:11 GMT 2012

It does.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 09 February 2012 15:05
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney)

well if it works at Nottingham?

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a
> single backslash is removed until none are left.
>
> So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the
> backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each
> time isn't realistic.
>
> So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is
> off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or
> has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are
> off?
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian
> Tenney)
>
> some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field.
>
> See what gets saved.
>
> Behold the answer!
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> But  stripslashes()  is independent of that?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000
>>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>> (Julian
>> Tenney)
>>
>> magic quotes are off on the sandpit.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave
>> Burnett
>> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04
>> To: Xerte list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>> (Julian
>> Tenney)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> removing backslashes - stripslashes()
>>
>>
>>
>> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's
>> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?"
> section above.
>>
>> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are
>> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the
> future.
>>
>>
>>
>> magic quotes turned on?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk
>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000
>>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian
>>> Tenney)
>>>
>>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is
>>> hosted with you?
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:57:50 +0000
>>> From: Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
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>>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they
>>> all come back intact.
>>>
>>> Is this a server thing?
>>>
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>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58
>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into
>>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders
>>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into
>>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I
>>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each
> time it removes a \ until none is left.
>>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO.
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000
>>> From: Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
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>>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in.
>>>
>>> So you start off with \\t
>>>
>>> Save the file, close the editor
>>>
>>> Open it
>>>
>>> And see \t
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57
>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\
>>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes
>>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and
>>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops
>>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please
>>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae.
>>>
>>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:33:46 +0000
>>> From: "Ott A (AT)" <aott at glam.ac.uk>
>>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
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>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should
>>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process,
>>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and
>>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex
>>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine
>>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can
>>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some
>>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So
>>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae.
>>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some
> other stage?
>>>
>>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000
>>> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
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>>>
>>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within
>>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single
>>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to
>>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for
>>> single \ to work. :-(
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>>> Tenney
>>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
>>>
>>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a
>>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I
>>> haven't used the latex stuff much.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11
>>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the
>>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g.
>>> <tex src="=\frac{40\times24\times7}{1000} = 6.72"></tex> ?
>>>
>>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is
>>> why the latex is only partially working.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what
>>> file(s)
>>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace
>>> them on the server?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57
>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>>> Mitchell)
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the
>>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly
>>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the
>>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in
> Blackboard.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I
>>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The
>>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times'
>>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the
>>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to work around this?
>>>
>>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley)
>>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell)
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000
>>> From: Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>
>>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAO2PinPe+bYUsQ5E-=4P7a1SSmTUhdduQMokEw4J97dLe4AfPQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields.
>>>
>>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open
>>> content
>>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too,
>>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney
>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some
>>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import
>>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL
>>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it.
>>> >
>>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the
>>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into
>>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get
>>> > a quiz
>>> score.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>>> > Haslam
>>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32
>>> > To: Xerte discussion list
>>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still
>>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m
>>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is
>>> > no longer relevant to my question.)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the
>>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to
>>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into
>>> > Blackboard to achieve
>>> this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with
>>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have
>>> > within Blackboard?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Oli
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Oliver Haslam
>>> >
>>> > Course Developer (Technologist)
>>> >
>>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Technology Enhanced Learning
>>> >
>>> > University of the West of England
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________
>>> >
>>> > T: 0117 32 88215
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave
>>> > Burnett
>>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54
>>> > To: Xerte list
>>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> > own XOT installation
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > That is correct.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk
>>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can
>>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to
>>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results
>>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Oli
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> Oliver Haslam
>>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>> >>
>>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
>>> >> University of the West of England
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >> T: 0117 32 88215
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>>> >> Tenney
>>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36
>>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would
>>> >> be even better...
>>> >>
>>> >> Why?
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>>> >> Haslam
>>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32
>>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >>
>>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can
>>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT.
>>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't
>>> >> work as
>>> 'scorm export'.
>>> >>
>>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile
>>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported."
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would
>>> >> be even better...
>>> >>
>>> >> Best
>>> >>
>>> >> Oli
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> Oliver Haslam
>>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>> >>
>>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
>>> >> University of the West of England
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >> T: 0117 32 88215
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> >> Mitchell
>>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17
>>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject
>>> >> line ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental
>>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before
>>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something
>>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the
>>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and
>>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but
> my list would be...
>>> >>
>>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the
>>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various
>>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct
>>> >>
>>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying
>>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and
>>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit
>>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further
>>> >> questions if everything but that works
>>> >>
>>> >> HTH
>>> >> Ron
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>>> >> Tenney
>>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58
>>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The
>>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the
>>> server?
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>>> >> Haslam
>>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56
>>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own
>>> >> XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >>
>>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to
>>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these
>>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more
>>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all
>>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me!
>>> >>
>>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have
>>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is
>>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our
>>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to
>>> >> play it I get this
>>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on
>>> >> any advice received to those that do.
>>> >>
>>> >> Many thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Oli
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> Oliver Haslam
>>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>>> >>
>>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
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>>> >> Message: 1
>>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000
>>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to
>>> >> our own XOT installation
>>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk>
>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> >>
>>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent
>>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would
>>> >> comment/add as
>>> >> follows:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't
>>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export.
>>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in
>>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit
>>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO
>>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to
>>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work
>>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve
>>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues
> with the sandpit.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported
>>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> HTH
>>> >>
>>> >> Ron
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>> >> Alistair McNaught
>>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11
>>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>>> >> own XOT installation
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all
>>> >>
>>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in
>>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here
>>> >> to pick up the answers.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> A
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
>>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
>>> >> Oliver Haslam
>>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05
>>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>>> >> installation
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to
>>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of
>>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully
> received!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export"
>>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own
>>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I
>>> >> get an error message saying
>>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see
>>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or
>>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the
>>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page:
>>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try
>>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload
>>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are
>>> >> currently imported." And can go no further.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly?
>>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Any suggestions?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Oli
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Oliver Haslam
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:09:56 -0000
>>> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>> Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk>
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>>> Hi Alistair
>>>
>>> you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both
>>> display latex and also work offline when exported.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you encounter any further problems.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>>> McNaught
>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on
>>> loading
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06
>>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Alistair
>>>
>>> ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>>> McNaught
>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ron
>>>
>>> Many thanks for speedy response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT
>>>
>>> 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any
>>> latex but leaves blank spaces.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47
>>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>> I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try
>>> again I think you'll find it works now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer
>>> the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally?
>>>
>>> 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing
>>> between lines not quite right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
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>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33
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>>> Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I previously creates a learning object at
>>> http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how
>>> to create formulae using simple Latex expressions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the
>>> Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not
>>> sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object
>>> (above) will correctly display the formulae now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've probably missed some important comment in a thread I skimmed too
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>>> learning objects will be very welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>>
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